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the spoke radio for the masses headline

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edition july 8

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1947 the army air forces has announced

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that a flying beast has been found and

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is now in the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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this is fade to black it's your host

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jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

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the global radio alliance

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i need your help to get to the year

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you're listening to fate to black with

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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good evening how you doing

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i made it that was close

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fade to black bespoke radio

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for the masses

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today's tuesday may 11 2021 131 days

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into the new year

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only 234 days left

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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the middle of nowhere

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that's right a total undisclosed

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but it's beautiful how you doing

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nice i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world

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all across the united states

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hither and tether to and fro back and

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this is fade to black for kjcr the game

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i'm your jimmy church what is cracking

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everybody how you doing

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how alan steinfeld

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allen steinfeld is with us tonight here

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for the first time

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helen and i have been talking about

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a very long time we finally uh got

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his best-selling new book just released

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chapters of my life that is tomorrow

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uh exclusive night on fade to black

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man i steal my best material from alan

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heavy that's a great question

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that question does light fade with time

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that joke all day long nobody's biting

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oh where am i at i i don't even know now

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where am i at ufo megacon

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ufo megacon coming up june 6th through

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the 12th

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in laughlin nevada very excited about

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this i announced last night

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now we've got banners over at

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jimmychurchradio.com head straight over

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there

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click on it go get your tickets now all

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um our booth uh nice big double wide

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is right when you walk in the vendor

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area and it's right to your left so it's

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right in the front

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come by and see us we've got a a lot of

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uh new stuff that's going to be there

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and i can't wait for all of you to check

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it out

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and uh we got some new shirts

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uh man should i leak so should i do uh

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should i do a sneak peek we might have

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some posters yeah

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i've got to do those one day just to do

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it i just have to do it just because

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it's just such a cool thing um and i

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always think of frankie valley from my

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when uh uh steve martin's wife

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black and white of frankie valley

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gonna have lots of cool things there so

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through the 12th

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a real conference is happening this june

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in three weeks gonna be in laughlin

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the sandbox hashtag f2b right there on

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if you want to uh go over to youtube and

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there you can do that i'm not over there

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right now

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so you know it's going nuts see when i'm

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i was uh i was uh i was banning people

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click i got the power it's my channel

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i can i i the power that you

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have in the youtube chat is

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extraordinary you can

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send people to the corner 300 seconds

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it was awesome it was awesome i think i

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did it three times

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it was pretty cool it was pretty cool

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all right uh so hashtag ftb

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is uh the sandbox on twitter and email

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jimmy jimmychurchradio.com all right i'm

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in a good mood alan steinfeld is here

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tonight but

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all day uh extremely

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sad news and that's what's going on over

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in israel right now tensions between

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escalated way out of control today

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as palestinian militants in gaza fired

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500 rockets into israel which in turn

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ramped up air strikes by the israeli

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jerusalem there are no signs of any

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de-escalation as of showtime tonight

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when i saw some of the graphics that

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in mass media saw a graphic you know map

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of israel with uh

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the the pins of each rocket strike

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in in google maps what i thought

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i honestly thought it was fake news i

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thought it was a fake graphic

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i just want things to calm down israel

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it would enhance its operation in gaza

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the israeli military conducted more than

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150 strikes in gaza as of this evening i

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saw a 13-story

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building apartment building collapse

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absolute insanity going on over there

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right now well

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the voyager spacecraft is back in the

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news

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it has detected a persistent hum on

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putting that in air quotes persistent

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hum

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from beyond our solar system nasa's

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voyager 1

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launched on september 5th 1977 from cape

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canaveral florida

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just weeks after its sistercraft voyager

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2 which launched

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first but that's a whole other story but

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voyager 1 got out there

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first right although they were initially

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designed to last just five

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years more than 43 years after they

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launched they are still sending back

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data

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as they explore interstellar space

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instruments aboard voyager 1 which has

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moved past the edge of the solar system

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have detected the sounds of plasma waves

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according to research

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published yesterday in the journal

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nature astronomy

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voyager 1 is the most distant human-made

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object in space and continues to

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function despite its age

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and a distance of over 14

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billion miles well

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georgia this is crazy saw all of this

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coming

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georgia has joined the gl the growing

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list of states declaring a state of

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emergency over

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a potential gas shortage earlier today

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virginia governor ralph northam issued a

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state of emergency declaration

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and north carolina governor ray cooper

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declared a state of emergency last night

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right now that's a total of at least

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three states implementing emergency

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measures to ensure

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fuel doesn't run dry a number of gas

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stations along the east coast are

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currently out of fuel

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after drivers aggressively filled up

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their tanks following a ransomware

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attack

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that shut down the colonial pipeline

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gas stations out of gas

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let's get the show cracking happy

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birthday to today

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ramstein ramstein drummer christoph

344
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schneider today is 55 years old let me

345
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say this about ramstein

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music amazing visuals amazing

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video's amazing concert's amazing

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songwriting amazing i have no idea what

349
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they're singing about

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and i went and the music's just great

351
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visually on stage i mean that's you pay

352
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to go to a rock concert that's what you

353
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want to see it's like kiss

354
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in detroit in 1978 right detroit rock

355
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city right and that's what you get at a

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ramstein concert

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i love it and then one day

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i read the words translated to english

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and i was like oh man uh do i

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do i tell people i like ramstein

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[Music]

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yeah but they're good

363
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anyway kristoff schneider today 55 years

364
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old

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our dead guy's birthday today is butch

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trucks

367
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yeah butch 1947 to 2014 it was a sad day

368
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in 2017 died at the age of 69.

369
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butch was a member and drummer of the

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allman brothers band

371
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founding member of the allman brothers

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band

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1969 their 1971 live release

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at fillmore east represented an artistic

375
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and commercial breakthrough and remains

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one of the great moments

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in music history though the band broke

378
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up and reformed

379
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various times butch remained a constant

380
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in their 45-year career

381
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butch died of a self-inflicted gunshot

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wound on january 24

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2017 in his waterfront condo in west

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palm beach

385
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sad love butch trucks understand history

386
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otd

387
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yep i mention this probably every year

388
00:18:11,230 --> 00:18:07,760
because it was a big day 1997

389
00:18:14,549 --> 00:18:11,240
chess grand master gary kasparov

390
00:18:17,669 --> 00:18:14,559
resigns after 19 moves

391
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in a game against deep blue

392
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the chess playing computer developed by

393
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ibm

394
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this was the sixth and final game

395
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of their match which kasparov

396
00:18:33,669 --> 00:18:30,640
lost two games to one with

397
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three draws and that was the turning

398
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point in history

399
00:18:42,070 --> 00:18:38,559
right there in 1997. fader fact okay

400
00:18:45,510 --> 00:18:42,080
now this is a fact this is

401
00:18:46,710 --> 00:18:45,520
vetted look it up i'm i mean right now

402
00:18:51,909 --> 00:18:46,720
right i'm i'm gonna re

403
00:19:02,950 --> 00:18:57,350
vermont that's right vermont

404
00:19:07,510 --> 00:19:02,960
passed a law in 1999

405
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that the state pie is apple

406
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and one must make a good faith

407
00:19:17,750 --> 00:19:14,559
effort this is law to serve it

408
00:19:20,710 --> 00:19:17,760
with either a glass of cold milk

409
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a half ounce of cheddar cheese or a

410
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large

411
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scoop of vanilla ice cream

412
00:19:27,990 --> 00:19:26,480
that's right break the law six months in

413
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jail

414
00:19:34,549 --> 00:19:31,120
vermont passed that law

415
00:19:40,150 --> 00:19:34,559
in 1999 not 1899

416
00:19:43,510 --> 00:19:40,160
not 1799 1999

417
00:19:44,870 --> 00:19:43,520
20 years ago and that is your favorite

418
00:19:45,750 --> 00:19:44,880
fight i don't know about the six months

419
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in jail

420
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i kid i think it's eight tonight very

421
00:19:52,549 --> 00:19:50,480
special guest

422
00:19:53,750 --> 00:19:52,559
alan steinfeld is here for the first

423
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time

424
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and we are going to talk about his new

425
00:19:59,830 --> 00:19:57,120
best-selling book

426
00:20:03,029 --> 00:19:59,840
making contact preparing for the new

427
00:20:04,630 --> 00:20:03,039
realities of extraterrestrial existence

428
00:20:06,470 --> 00:20:04,640
tomorrow night another first time guest

429
00:20:07,990 --> 00:20:06,480
nancy tremaine is with us

430
00:20:10,149 --> 00:20:08,000
we're going to discuss her new but it's

431
00:20:12,230 --> 00:20:10,159
new books all week this week

432
00:20:13,830 --> 00:20:12,240
nancy tremaine her new book enlightened

433
00:20:16,470 --> 00:20:13,840
chapters of my life

434
00:20:16,950 --> 00:20:16,480
thursday night jacques vale paula harris

435
00:20:18,470 --> 00:20:16,960
with

436
00:20:19,830 --> 00:20:18,480
an exclusive announcement and

437
00:20:22,310 --> 00:20:19,840
conversation about their new book

438
00:20:23,950 --> 00:20:22,320
trinity the best kept secret so we had

439
00:20:26,149 --> 00:20:23,960
avi loeb last night with his book

440
00:20:27,750 --> 00:20:26,159
extraterrestrial allen steinfeld tonight

441
00:20:29,510 --> 00:20:27,760
with making contact

442
00:20:30,789 --> 00:20:29,520
nancy tremaine tomorrow with her new

443
00:20:33,750 --> 00:20:30,799
book enlightened

444
00:20:35,430 --> 00:20:33,760
uh and thursday night uh trinity with uh

445
00:20:38,549 --> 00:20:35,440
jacques and paula

446
00:20:41,830 --> 00:20:38,559
it's crazy it was all an accident

447
00:20:44,789 --> 00:20:41,840
it's just straight-up ufo week

448
00:20:46,789 --> 00:20:44,799
and new books here on fade to black now

449
00:20:48,549 --> 00:20:46,799
it's time for me to hit this

450
00:20:50,549 --> 00:20:48,559
river moon coffee have you ever had

451
00:20:51,430 --> 00:20:50,559
cheddar cheese on apple pie i've never

452
00:20:54,070 --> 00:20:51,440
done it

453
00:20:55,750 --> 00:20:54,080
and after reading vermont's new law i

454
00:20:57,510 --> 00:20:55,760
think i'm going to check that out

455
00:20:58,950 --> 00:20:57,520
i'm going to check that out hey okay

456
00:21:00,070 --> 00:20:58,960
there's pictures coming up here in

457
00:21:03,110 --> 00:21:00,080
twitter

458
00:21:07,110 --> 00:21:03,120
really people i've heard of this

459
00:21:10,549 --> 00:21:07,120
but uh yeah there is that the law

460
00:21:13,590 --> 00:21:10,559
right there is that the law

461
00:21:14,549 --> 00:21:13,600
is that the law yeah it's crazy that's a

462
00:21:16,549 --> 00:21:14,559
law

463
00:21:18,070 --> 00:21:16,559
that's right the date of the year that

464
00:21:21,350 --> 00:21:18,080
the law was passed

465
00:21:24,470 --> 00:21:21,360
march 14th no

466
00:21:25,110 --> 00:21:24,480
really why is that a big deal i don't

467
00:21:27,350 --> 00:21:25,120
know

468
00:21:29,029 --> 00:21:27,360
that's from ipd ipd is trying to make up

469
00:21:30,870 --> 00:21:29,039
for the jokes he's been cracking today

470
00:21:34,110 --> 00:21:30,880
about julian assange

471
00:21:35,830 --> 00:21:34,120
all right river moon coffee

472
00:21:37,830 --> 00:21:35,840
rivermoonwellness.com all the links are

473
00:21:39,110 --> 00:21:37,840
over at jimmychurchradio.com best coffee

474
00:21:39,510 --> 00:21:39,120
in the world there's no question about

475
00:21:44,470 --> 00:21:39,520
it

476
00:21:47,750 --> 00:21:44,480
my picture is on every package

477
00:21:51,270 --> 00:21:47,760
this one right yeah

478
00:21:55,669 --> 00:21:51,280
okay well today man that was good

479
00:21:57,430 --> 00:21:55,679
there's kristoff kristoff is bad ass

480
00:21:59,669 --> 00:21:57,440
let me tell you so that whole man

481
00:22:01,750 --> 00:21:59,679
rammstein one of the things i love about

482
00:22:04,470 --> 00:22:01,760
ramstein

483
00:22:04,950 --> 00:22:04,480
that is just nasty i know i know i don't

484
00:22:06,870 --> 00:22:04,960
know

485
00:22:08,950 --> 00:22:06,880
okay all right talking about cheddar

486
00:22:12,070 --> 00:22:08,960
cheese on on apple pie

487
00:22:16,789 --> 00:22:12,080
um ramstein go watch a video

488
00:22:19,190 --> 00:22:16,799
of ramstein pick out any live video and

489
00:22:20,630 --> 00:22:19,200
everybody's cool to watch visually but

490
00:22:24,149 --> 00:22:20,640
you know you know what

491
00:22:26,950 --> 00:22:24,159
i watch the keyboard player the keyboard

492
00:22:30,549 --> 00:22:26,960
player he's up he's house

493
00:22:33,270 --> 00:22:30,559
right to the right of chris and he's up

494
00:22:34,470 --> 00:22:33,280
and he he's got his keyboard but he's

495
00:22:41,350 --> 00:22:34,480
got

496
00:22:44,789 --> 00:22:41,360
so for the entire show

497
00:22:46,710 --> 00:22:44,799
he marches on this treadmill and plays

498
00:22:49,830 --> 00:22:46,720
keyboard it is the coolest

499
00:22:53,430 --> 00:22:49,840
it's like the greatest idea ever so uh

500
00:22:54,950 --> 00:22:53,440
anyway all right today today wasn't ufo

501
00:22:59,190 --> 00:22:54,960
friday

502
00:23:05,110 --> 00:23:02,230
it was ufo tuesday

503
00:23:06,549 --> 00:23:05,120
with a major article released in

504
00:23:10,630 --> 00:23:06,559
newsweek

505
00:23:13,750 --> 00:23:10,640
written by adrian carrasquillo

506
00:23:17,350 --> 00:23:13,760
its title you ready

507
00:23:19,669 --> 00:23:17,360
quote marco rubio is taking ufos

508
00:23:22,789 --> 00:23:19,679
seriously and he thinks

509
00:23:27,430 --> 00:23:22,799
you should too end quote

510
00:23:29,990 --> 00:23:27,440
so this comes flooding in it's in my

511
00:23:32,149 --> 00:23:30,000
email i got a couple text messages i see

512
00:23:36,149 --> 00:23:32,159
it on face see it on twitter and

513
00:23:39,350 --> 00:23:36,159
and uh i was like okay all right so

514
00:23:44,390 --> 00:23:39,360
the funniest thing about

515
00:23:48,149 --> 00:23:44,400
this article well it's not so funny

516
00:23:54,230 --> 00:23:48,159
is that this piece by adrian

517
00:24:02,070 --> 00:23:57,909
adrian points out a few times

518
00:24:05,510 --> 00:24:02,080
that the ufo subject is officially

519
00:24:07,110 --> 00:24:05,520
a serious one now seriously is my

520
00:24:08,310 --> 00:24:07,120
favorite word i've just said serious

521
00:24:11,669 --> 00:24:08,320
three times

522
00:24:15,269 --> 00:24:11,679
i'm going to continue adrian says that

523
00:24:18,470 --> 00:24:15,279
it's no longer in the fringes of society

524
00:24:19,669 --> 00:24:18,480
he says it's real it's now and it needs

525
00:24:22,870 --> 00:24:19,679
to be talked about

526
00:24:29,669 --> 00:24:25,909
out of all of the press in recent years

527
00:24:32,870 --> 00:24:29,679
this is one of the best if not the first

528
00:24:35,590 --> 00:24:32,880
article that i have read that it's

529
00:24:38,230 --> 00:24:35,600
actually worth reading

530
00:24:40,950 --> 00:24:38,240
and i don't say this often and all of

531
00:24:45,510 --> 00:24:42,710
everything that has been put out since

532
00:24:47,510 --> 00:24:45,520
december of 2017 i've been able to poke

533
00:24:51,110 --> 00:24:47,520
holes in

534
00:24:52,630 --> 00:24:51,120
all right at some point in the

535
00:24:54,310 --> 00:24:52,640
in the mass media and the press i've

536
00:24:57,750 --> 00:24:54,320
laughed out loud

537
00:25:02,470 --> 00:25:01,190
i've always found a way to just dismiss

538
00:25:05,669 --> 00:25:02,480
it

539
00:25:09,029 --> 00:25:07,990
i have posted this article today by

540
00:25:12,070 --> 00:25:09,039
adrian

541
00:25:14,950 --> 00:25:12,080
newsweek throughout social media

542
00:25:16,950 --> 00:25:14,960
and i want you to please take the time

543
00:25:20,230 --> 00:25:16,960
to go and chase it down

544
00:25:20,789 --> 00:25:20,240
let me know what you think for the first

545
00:25:23,430 --> 00:25:20,799
time

546
00:25:25,990 --> 00:25:23,440
like in ever i got to the end of the

547
00:25:30,549 --> 00:25:26,000
article and i thought to myself

548
00:25:34,390 --> 00:25:32,230
this all comes after the show last night

549
00:25:37,190 --> 00:25:34,400
with avi loeb and yes

550
00:25:39,029 --> 00:25:37,200
he's also asking everyone to start

551
00:25:40,789 --> 00:25:39,039
taking this subject seriously

552
00:25:42,470 --> 00:25:40,799
all i wanted to do last night was talk

553
00:25:44,390 --> 00:25:42,480
about science

554
00:25:46,789 --> 00:25:44,400
i wanted to talk about our milky way the

555
00:25:50,950 --> 00:25:46,799
universe the big bang theory

556
00:25:54,390 --> 00:25:50,960
all avi wanted to talk about was e.t

557
00:25:57,269 --> 00:25:54,400
which which was totally cool

558
00:25:58,149 --> 00:25:57,279
and this is where we are today the

559
00:26:00,870 --> 00:25:58,159
subject

560
00:26:02,710 --> 00:26:00,880
finally is is part of our thought

561
00:26:05,909 --> 00:26:02,720
process

562
00:26:07,830 --> 00:26:05,919
it's finally arrived it really has

563
00:26:09,430 --> 00:26:07,840
this week on the show like i said

564
00:26:11,990 --> 00:26:09,440
earlier all quite by

565
00:26:12,950 --> 00:26:12,000
accident i might add it's all about e.t

566
00:26:16,070 --> 00:26:12,960
ufos

567
00:26:17,590 --> 00:26:16,080
and contact i've always booked the show

568
00:26:20,390 --> 00:26:17,600
around where my head is at

569
00:26:21,430 --> 00:26:20,400
at any particular moment and right now

570
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it's ufos

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some weeks it'll be egypt some weeks

572
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ancient history

573
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other week science or life after death

574
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or ghosts

575
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and bigfoot right now it's e.t and i

576
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love it

577
00:26:36,950 --> 00:26:34,640
tonight we have alan steinfeld on with

578
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us and his new book making contact

579
00:26:40,630 --> 00:26:38,640
preparing for the new realities of

580
00:26:42,470 --> 00:26:40,640
extraterrestrial existence

581
00:26:43,669 --> 00:26:42,480
was just released and it's a bestseller

582
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on amazon

583
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and the timing couldn't be better alan

584
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has been chasing ufos for 40 years

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00:26:53,430 --> 00:26:50,960
and i can't wait to hear what he has to

586
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say these days about what's going on

587
00:26:57,750 --> 00:26:55,200
and tomorrow night nancy tremaine is

588
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with us and her life of contact is an

589
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extraordinary story and her new book is

590
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amazing

591
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and then on thursday we have jacques and

592
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we have paola here

593
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and they're going to announce their new

594
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book trinity

595
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and it's about a ufo crash retrieval and

596
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cover-up that happened back in 1945

597
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a full two years before roswell

598
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now i know that all of us have felt

599
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the build up over the last four years

600
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crescendo and things seem like

601
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they might be coming to a head with

602
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everything that is

603
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currently going on i've almost forgotten

604
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that other thing

605
00:27:47,669 --> 00:27:45,830
the uap task force report remember that

606
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i've almost forgotten about it that's

607
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how great

608
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it is right now you remember it's due

609
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next month the senate intelligence

610
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committee

611
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remember all of that stuff seriously

612
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last week

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we had spacex with the sn15 launch and

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land

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last week blue origin is blasting space

616
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tourists this

617
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july that was announced we have a new

618
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historic case to research and discover

619
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from 1945

620
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and today newsweek is asking the world

621
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to take ufos seriously

622
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seriously have you forgotten about those

623
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pyramids i know you have man

624
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i'm going to be straight with you i wish

625
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stanton friedman and jim mars

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were around to enjoy all of this

627
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seriously i'm your host jimmy church

628
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we've got an amazing night tonight

629
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continuing this amazing week here on

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fade to black on the game changer

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network

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and kgra the planet you can follow me on

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twitter

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right now at j church radio that's

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simple my email

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is jimmy jimmychurchradio.com

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got a great night straight ahead in

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front of us alan steinfeld is here

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for the first time i don't know why it's

640
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taking this long but tonight we're about

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to get it done

642
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alan's here and he's bringing his a game

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how many knows jimmy church i'll be

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right back after this short break stay

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with us

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[Music]

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this is nicole church daughter of you

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know who and you're listening to fade to

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black on jimmychurchradio.com and the

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you're listening to jimmy church fade to

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fate to black will now pause for alien

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this is jimmy church and i'll be at the

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you're listening to jimmychurchradio.com

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what's up i'm chris what up this is kyle

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[Music]

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00:35:27,990 --> 00:35:26,560
welcome back fade to black i'm your host

777
00:35:30,230 --> 00:35:28,000
jimmy church

778
00:35:31,190 --> 00:35:30,240
what a great week on the show last night

779
00:35:33,990 --> 00:35:31,200
avi loeb

780
00:35:35,589 --> 00:35:34,000
tonight alan steinfeld tomorrow night

781
00:35:37,430 --> 00:35:35,599
nancy tremaine

782
00:35:39,030 --> 00:35:37,440
thursday night jacques vale and paula

783
00:35:40,950 --> 00:35:39,040
harris

784
00:35:43,030 --> 00:35:40,960
it's time to get our knowledge on

785
00:35:44,390 --> 00:35:43,040
tonight it's alan steinfeld he's joining

786
00:35:45,829 --> 00:35:44,400
us for the first time

787
00:35:47,510 --> 00:35:45,839
and we're going to be discussing his new

788
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best-selling book making contact

789
00:35:51,510 --> 00:35:49,280
preparing for the new realities of

790
00:35:53,109 --> 00:35:51,520
extraterrestrial existence

791
00:35:55,030 --> 00:35:53,119
alan of course is a writer he's a

792
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producer speaker in the fields of human

793
00:35:58,069 --> 00:35:55,760
potential

794
00:35:59,589 --> 00:35:58,079
metaphysics conscious evolution and

795
00:36:01,349 --> 00:35:59,599
spiritual awakening

796
00:36:03,910 --> 00:36:01,359
he's also the host and director of new

797
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realities and for over 20 years he has

798
00:36:07,430 --> 00:36:05,839
brought cutting-edge ideas in science

799
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health spirituality

800
00:36:11,030 --> 00:36:09,760
to his audiences and check this out he

801
00:36:14,390 --> 00:36:11,040
has interviewed over

802
00:36:17,430 --> 00:36:14,400
3 000 people that's right

803
00:36:19,990 --> 00:36:17,440
that's where i get my best i get my best

804
00:36:21,349 --> 00:36:20,000
from alan he's got over 12 million views

805
00:36:23,829 --> 00:36:21,359
on his youtube channel

806
00:36:26,310 --> 00:36:23,839
he also produces the new realities radio

807
00:36:29,990 --> 00:36:26,320
shows and podcasts each week for itunes

808
00:36:31,750 --> 00:36:30,000
bbs radio kyakfm in oregon

809
00:36:33,829 --> 00:36:31,760
he's also on the board of the friends of

810
00:36:35,750 --> 00:36:33,839
the institute of noetic sciences

811
00:36:38,230 --> 00:36:35,760
vice president of the association of

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psychotherapy and spirituality alan i'm

813
00:36:42,230 --> 00:36:40,000
running out of breath here

814
00:36:43,910 --> 00:36:42,240
and the representative to the united

815
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nations for the academy of future

816
00:36:46,630 --> 00:36:44,800
science

817
00:36:48,550 --> 00:36:46,640
and of course his new book is right

818
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there over at jimmychurchradio.com

819
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available on amazon

820
00:36:53,349 --> 00:36:52,320
i'd like to welcome for the first time

821
00:36:55,430 --> 00:36:53,359
alan steinfeld

822
00:36:57,430 --> 00:36:55,440
alan good evening my man how you doing i

823
00:36:58,069 --> 00:36:57,440
am glad we're finally doing this mr

824
00:37:00,710 --> 00:36:58,079
jimmy

825
00:37:02,470 --> 00:37:00,720
and uh you you know we've been passing

826
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each other for years

827
00:37:05,510 --> 00:37:04,320
outside those conferences and now we're

828
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sitting down and

829
00:37:08,950 --> 00:37:07,839
and chewing it out yeah it's it's about

830
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time and you know what this

831
00:37:13,109 --> 00:37:10,960
i've been waiting for this moment where

832
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i get to give alan steinfeld the

833
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right i've been looking forward to this

834
00:37:23,670 --> 00:37:22,240
and alan it's this it's just you and i

835
00:37:25,670 --> 00:37:23,680
sitting on my couch having a

836
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conversation as friends and where that

837
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conversation starts it starts where it

838
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ends it ends

839
00:37:31,510 --> 00:37:30,160
but we're gonna end his friends there

840
00:37:34,150 --> 00:37:31,520
you go okay

841
00:37:34,870 --> 00:37:34,160
okay okay if we started as friends we'll

842
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end it

843
00:37:40,710 --> 00:37:37,119
exactly exactly well i don't know i

844
00:37:43,190 --> 00:37:40,720
don't know this thing could go anywhere

845
00:37:43,910 --> 00:37:43,200
you do that with every guest yeah that's

846
00:37:45,510 --> 00:37:43,920
that's uh

847
00:37:46,950 --> 00:37:45,520
every every first time guest gets the

848
00:37:48,710 --> 00:37:46,960
first time because i've been doing that

849
00:37:50,470 --> 00:37:48,720
for 10 years full of times

850
00:37:52,710 --> 00:37:50,480
you've done enough shows you know how it

851
00:37:53,430 --> 00:37:52,720
is and you're in the groove you're in

852
00:37:56,710 --> 00:37:53,440
the

853
00:37:57,190 --> 00:37:56,720
repetition of things having fun and i'll

854
00:38:00,150 --> 00:37:57,200
have

855
00:38:01,670 --> 00:38:00,160
a first time guest on and i'll forget

856
00:38:04,710 --> 00:38:01,680
the disclaimer

857
00:38:05,190 --> 00:38:04,720
and twitter lights up and everybody you

858
00:38:07,589 --> 00:38:05,200
know

859
00:38:08,630 --> 00:38:07,599
it's like i gotta come back after the

860
00:38:10,390 --> 00:38:08,640
break

861
00:38:12,150 --> 00:38:10,400
and do the first time uh guest

862
00:38:14,150 --> 00:38:12,160
disclaimer so i've

863
00:38:15,430 --> 00:38:14,160
uh i've had my chops busted enough with

864
00:38:18,550 --> 00:38:15,440
that i don't forget it

865
00:38:19,190 --> 00:38:18,560
as much anymore um let me let me

866
00:38:21,109 --> 00:38:19,200
actually

867
00:38:22,310 --> 00:38:21,119
uh start here when you get to the

868
00:38:26,230 --> 00:38:22,320
numbers

869
00:38:28,150 --> 00:38:26,240
um that you have done and i certainly

870
00:38:30,069 --> 00:38:28,160
appreciate that because i need shows

871
00:38:32,630 --> 00:38:30,079
i've done in interviews

872
00:38:36,150 --> 00:38:32,640
and when you get into the thousands have

873
00:38:38,790 --> 00:38:36,160
you forgotten more than you remember

874
00:38:39,670 --> 00:38:38,800
uh that is a good question you know i

875
00:38:43,430 --> 00:38:39,680
was doing shows

876
00:38:46,069 --> 00:38:43,440
three times a week and 1990s

877
00:38:47,510 --> 00:38:46,079
and then on where i started in santa fe

878
00:38:51,030 --> 00:38:47,520
hey

879
00:38:52,630 --> 00:38:51,040
i forget every single person i talk to i

880
00:38:53,430 --> 00:38:52,640
don't necessarily remember what we

881
00:38:56,470 --> 00:38:53,440
talked about

882
00:38:59,990 --> 00:38:56,480
but i search out people who can

883
00:39:02,550 --> 00:39:00,000
feed me and give me

884
00:39:03,910 --> 00:39:02,560
a more knowledge and so it just adds on

885
00:39:04,950 --> 00:39:03,920
top of a big pile

886
00:39:08,069 --> 00:39:04,960
of knowledge i don't know where that

887
00:39:09,829 --> 00:39:08,079
gets me but it's i i try to remember

888
00:39:11,349 --> 00:39:09,839
most of it so thank you well yeah i know

889
00:39:14,710 --> 00:39:11,359
that you've had people uh

890
00:39:15,109 --> 00:39:14,720
come up to you and say ed uh we did a

891
00:39:21,430 --> 00:39:15,119
great

892
00:39:25,510 --> 00:39:24,390
oh we just lost connection with alan

893
00:39:29,430 --> 00:39:25,520
okay alan

894
00:39:32,710 --> 00:39:29,440
uh your connection just dropped out

895
00:39:33,190 --> 00:39:32,720
oh it is gone it did how's that you hear

896
00:39:36,390 --> 00:39:33,200
me now

897
00:39:39,670 --> 00:39:36,400
oh man oh yeah we dropped jimmy

898
00:39:42,150 --> 00:39:39,680
jimmy okay wait do you hear me yes i do

899
00:39:43,670 --> 00:39:42,160
can you hear me jimmy oh no they really

900
00:39:45,589 --> 00:39:43,680
dropped or is that one of the jimmy

901
00:39:47,349 --> 00:39:45,599
church tricks no that was not a jimmy

902
00:39:49,990 --> 00:39:47,359
church trick that was a real one

903
00:39:51,430 --> 00:39:50,000
that was that broadcast it out yeah we

904
00:39:54,150 --> 00:39:51,440
got a hard reconnect

905
00:39:54,790 --> 00:39:54,160
so hopefully okay uh hopefully we're

906
00:39:57,430 --> 00:39:54,800
solid

907
00:39:58,870 --> 00:39:57,440
but uh my point was i know that people

908
00:40:00,870 --> 00:39:58,880
have come up to you

909
00:40:02,870 --> 00:40:00,880
and said we did a great show 10 years

910
00:40:06,069 --> 00:40:02,880
ago it was awesome

911
00:40:08,309 --> 00:40:06,079
oh no we've lost alan

912
00:40:11,190 --> 00:40:08,319
okay no there we go sorry just taking

913
00:40:14,710 --> 00:40:11,200
off my camera so save uh bandwidth okay

914
00:40:18,150 --> 00:40:14,720
i'm here with you okay all right reset

915
00:40:23,349 --> 00:40:18,160
sorry man

916
00:40:27,589 --> 00:40:23,359
okay okay yeah turn your camera off

917
00:40:31,510 --> 00:40:27,599
yeah yeah we're skipping we're skipping

918
00:40:35,270 --> 00:40:31,520
we're skipping out okay better now

919
00:40:38,309 --> 00:40:35,280
i'll find out jimmy wait okay

920
00:40:42,309 --> 00:40:38,319
let's try this how is that

921
00:40:45,349 --> 00:40:42,319
okay that's good for me you see me

922
00:40:49,589 --> 00:40:45,359
is that good for you uh well i hope so

923
00:40:52,550 --> 00:40:49,599
jimmy can you hear me allen

924
00:40:53,430 --> 00:40:52,560
i'm gonna have to okay i hear you you

925
00:40:56,550 --> 00:40:53,440
hear me

926
00:41:01,270 --> 00:40:56,560
okay i'm gonna reset this everybody

927
00:41:04,309 --> 00:41:01,280
um everything was fine in soundcheck

928
00:41:07,990 --> 00:41:04,319
everything was awesome in soundcheck

929
00:41:09,990 --> 00:41:08,000
so uh let me uh let me redial

930
00:41:11,829 --> 00:41:10,000
and uh let's see if we can make this

931
00:41:14,630 --> 00:41:11,839
everything was fine everything was great

932
00:41:15,349 --> 00:41:14,640
everything was awesome and uh we just

933
00:41:18,390 --> 00:41:15,359
lost out

934
00:41:19,589 --> 00:41:18,400
on everything uh right now this live

935
00:41:22,710 --> 00:41:19,599
radio this is live

936
00:41:26,069 --> 00:41:22,720
see this isn't a pre-record okay

937
00:41:29,589 --> 00:41:26,079
alan let's try this again all right

938
00:41:32,790 --> 00:41:31,670
alan remember we're live on the air

939
00:41:35,589 --> 00:41:32,800
right now i

940
00:41:36,790 --> 00:41:35,599
know how embarrassing for all our

941
00:41:40,150 --> 00:41:36,800
friends out there

942
00:41:42,309 --> 00:41:40,160
okay okay

943
00:41:43,670 --> 00:41:42,319
okay you hear me good now i'm gonna shut

944
00:41:46,630 --> 00:41:43,680
off my camera let's go

945
00:41:47,750 --> 00:41:46,640
okay okay okay let's do it now you're

946
00:41:53,829 --> 00:41:47,760
good

947
00:41:57,510 --> 00:41:56,550
i don't know jimmy it's always something

948
00:42:00,870 --> 00:41:57,520
you know i'm gonna

949
00:42:03,589 --> 00:42:00,880
see if i can hardwire this okay

950
00:42:04,150 --> 00:42:03,599
alan let's just talk now let's just talk

951
00:42:07,750 --> 00:42:04,160
you can

952
00:42:11,750 --> 00:42:07,760
you talk

953
00:42:14,950 --> 00:42:11,760
yes okay so um this is the other part

954
00:42:15,990 --> 00:42:14,960
uh with you you've you've entered you've

955
00:42:19,510 --> 00:42:16,000
interviewed deepak

956
00:42:20,309 --> 00:42:19,520
like 200 times and when you have those

957
00:42:27,190 --> 00:42:20,319
kinds of

958
00:42:30,230 --> 00:42:27,200
are you in learning mode right are you

959
00:42:33,270 --> 00:42:30,240
constantly drawing from who your

960
00:42:35,190 --> 00:42:33,280
guests are well you know the reason i do

961
00:42:37,190 --> 00:42:35,200
this program is so i can learn

962
00:42:39,109 --> 00:42:37,200
you know i'm not doing it to entertain

963
00:42:41,589 --> 00:42:39,119
other people i'm doing it because

964
00:42:42,630 --> 00:42:41,599
my guest has information that will

965
00:42:44,790 --> 00:42:42,640
expand

966
00:42:46,470 --> 00:42:44,800
my mind and my consciousness that is why

967
00:42:49,589 --> 00:42:46,480
i do these programs

968
00:42:52,150 --> 00:42:49,599
do you know yeah exactly and

969
00:42:53,349 --> 00:42:52,160
that's the way it should be and do you

970
00:42:57,670 --> 00:42:53,359
go through

971
00:42:58,870 --> 00:42:57,680
awakening phase and your guests are like

972
00:43:02,069 --> 00:42:58,880
that or do you go through

973
00:43:02,550 --> 00:43:02,079
ancient history and and do weeks of that

974
00:43:09,510 --> 00:43:02,560
and

975
00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:09,520
do you find yourself with your research

976
00:43:13,510 --> 00:43:11,599
uh going through phases

977
00:43:15,510 --> 00:43:13,520
well you know in the beginning i was

978
00:43:16,470 --> 00:43:15,520
just calling it new realities that's

979
00:43:19,990 --> 00:43:16,480
still the theme of

980
00:43:23,910 --> 00:43:20,000
my show so any place i found someone

981
00:43:26,630 --> 00:43:23,920
who can expand my view of reality

982
00:43:28,309 --> 00:43:26,640
i would search them out track them down

983
00:43:29,990 --> 00:43:28,319
get a camera in front of them

984
00:43:32,390 --> 00:43:30,000
and talk to them so when i first heard

985
00:43:32,950 --> 00:43:32,400
about bruce lipton right he said well

986
00:43:35,910 --> 00:43:32,960
you know

987
00:43:38,710 --> 00:43:35,920
there are genes that are connected to

988
00:43:40,470 --> 00:43:38,720
things beyond the physical body he said

989
00:43:42,230 --> 00:43:40,480
they were self-receptors i said i have

990
00:43:43,750 --> 00:43:42,240
to talk to this guy when i first heard

991
00:43:47,270 --> 00:43:43,760
nassem harmeen

992
00:43:49,990 --> 00:43:47,280
i i found him in washington dc when i

993
00:43:51,270 --> 00:43:50,000
first met alex gray the artist i said i

994
00:43:53,829 --> 00:43:51,280
gotta talk to these

995
00:43:55,829 --> 00:43:53,839
people so they're not necessarily themes

996
00:43:58,870 --> 00:43:55,839
but to me they came

997
00:43:59,750 --> 00:43:58,880
in levels of mind expansion if that

998
00:44:02,790 --> 00:43:59,760
makes sense

999
00:44:06,230 --> 00:44:02,800
were you always uh growing up

1000
00:44:07,270 --> 00:44:06,240
were you on the spiritual path or was

1001
00:44:10,630 --> 00:44:07,280
there

1002
00:44:12,230 --> 00:44:10,640
paradigm shift that happened

1003
00:44:14,309 --> 00:44:12,240
well you know that's a really good

1004
00:44:17,510 --> 00:44:14,319
question absolutely

1005
00:44:20,790 --> 00:44:17,520
in 1981

1006
00:44:23,109 --> 00:44:20,800
i saw jay-z knight channel ramfa

1007
00:44:24,150 --> 00:44:23,119
the enlightened one right you know rampa

1008
00:44:27,190 --> 00:44:24,160
you know jason

1009
00:44:29,109 --> 00:44:27,200
i've had her on the show sure well in

1010
00:44:30,950 --> 00:44:29,119
the early days when she was

1011
00:44:32,870 --> 00:44:30,960
channeling it was like some

1012
00:44:34,630 --> 00:44:32,880
shakespearean drama

1013
00:44:36,230 --> 00:44:34,640
i was sitting in the audience it was a

1014
00:44:38,550 --> 00:44:36,240
small audience i was

1015
00:44:40,309 --> 00:44:38,560
kind of interested in spirituality i

1016
00:44:41,349 --> 00:44:40,319
didn't want to follow a guru i didn't

1017
00:44:45,190 --> 00:44:41,359
want to sit in front of

1018
00:44:47,109 --> 00:44:45,200
every anyone and rampa the channel said

1019
00:44:48,710 --> 00:44:47,119
this woman doesn't want people to follow

1020
00:44:50,630 --> 00:44:48,720
her if you can follow me

1021
00:44:52,069 --> 00:44:50,640
follow me when i leave this place so i

1022
00:44:54,790 --> 00:44:52,079
said that sounds good

1023
00:44:56,870 --> 00:44:54,800
he also said the bigger mystery is not

1024
00:44:58,069 --> 00:44:56,880
what's channeling through this body it's

1025
00:45:00,950 --> 00:44:58,079
what's coming through

1026
00:45:02,390 --> 00:45:00,960
your body and i thought all that was

1027
00:45:04,630 --> 00:45:02,400
really good advice

1028
00:45:05,510 --> 00:45:04,640
and then he called on me in the audience

1029
00:45:07,670 --> 00:45:05,520
this this

1030
00:45:10,230 --> 00:45:07,680
woman this from tacoma this housewife

1031
00:45:10,950 --> 00:45:10,240
with this 35 000 year old atlantean

1032
00:45:14,550 --> 00:45:10,960
warrior

1033
00:45:15,510 --> 00:45:14,560
people believe that and it was pretty

1034
00:45:18,790 --> 00:45:15,520
convincing anyway

1035
00:45:22,309 --> 00:45:18,800
rantha calls on me in 1981

1036
00:45:25,589 --> 00:45:22,319
and he says what say you beloved entity

1037
00:45:27,270 --> 00:45:25,599
how be you this day in your time and i

1038
00:45:29,670 --> 00:45:27,280
have to tell you

1039
00:45:31,270 --> 00:45:29,680
the world has shifted it's like there

1040
00:45:34,630 --> 00:45:31,280
was like i was high or

1041
00:45:35,750 --> 00:45:34,640
there was a distortion in the field i

1042
00:45:38,230 --> 00:45:35,760
started to

1043
00:45:39,510 --> 00:45:38,240
like felt like i was coming out of my

1044
00:45:42,230 --> 00:45:39,520
body it's like i

1045
00:45:43,270 --> 00:45:42,240
knew there was a a bigger picture of

1046
00:45:45,829 --> 00:45:43,280
reality

1047
00:45:46,710 --> 00:45:45,839
in that moment and that was the

1048
00:45:49,349 --> 00:45:46,720
beginning

1049
00:45:50,790 --> 00:45:49,359
of a spiritual awakening from there i

1050
00:45:53,829 --> 00:45:50,800
started to look at ufos

1051
00:45:55,750 --> 00:45:53,839
everything everything that was beyond

1052
00:45:57,190 --> 00:45:55,760
the normal reality which i always

1053
00:46:00,390 --> 00:45:57,200
suspected was there

1054
00:46:03,750 --> 00:46:00,400
but in that moment i had an experience

1055
00:46:06,790 --> 00:46:03,760
of the higher world now uh so was it

1056
00:46:09,910 --> 00:46:06,800
ramtha that did it or was it

1057
00:46:12,390 --> 00:46:09,920
was that just the catalyst um

1058
00:46:13,030 --> 00:46:12,400
i think there was a frequency that i was

1059
00:46:16,150 --> 00:46:13,040
suddenly

1060
00:46:18,390 --> 00:46:16,160
open to and it is all about frequency

1061
00:46:21,589 --> 00:46:18,400
and when your frequency changes

1062
00:46:22,150 --> 00:46:21,599
other levels of reality start to unfold

1063
00:46:25,030 --> 00:46:22,160
so

1064
00:46:26,470 --> 00:46:25,040
i just happen to be there i think rampa

1065
00:46:29,910 --> 00:46:26,480
was a catalyst for

1066
00:46:30,790 --> 00:46:29,920
accessing a higher mind and it sort of

1067
00:46:33,990 --> 00:46:30,800
stayed with me

1068
00:46:35,910 --> 00:46:34,000
that kicked off a journey i am still on

1069
00:46:37,990 --> 00:46:35,920
and all those thousands of people i've

1070
00:46:41,030 --> 00:46:38,000
talked to are all about

1071
00:46:43,349 --> 00:46:41,040
tell me more are we more than our bodies

1072
00:46:44,069 --> 00:46:43,359
is there these other realities do aliens

1073
00:46:46,630 --> 00:46:44,079
exist

1074
00:46:48,630 --> 00:46:46,640
what is it all about this has been my

1075
00:46:50,630 --> 00:46:48,640
lifelong quest to understand the big

1076
00:46:51,430 --> 00:46:50,640
questions because really why else are we

1077
00:46:57,109 --> 00:46:51,440
here

1078
00:47:00,390 --> 00:46:57,119
want to go with you right now because

1079
00:47:02,630 --> 00:47:00,400
um i look at you alan and

1080
00:47:04,550 --> 00:47:02,640
and i mean this of the greatest respect

1081
00:47:06,870 --> 00:47:04,560
your feet are on the ground

1082
00:47:08,069 --> 00:47:06,880
but your eyes are lit up right there's

1083
00:47:11,349 --> 00:47:08,079
something going on

1084
00:47:14,550 --> 00:47:11,359
inside of alan steinfeld and as

1085
00:47:18,870 --> 00:47:14,560
you uh have been on this

1086
00:47:21,990 --> 00:47:18,880
journey the conscious consciousness

1087
00:47:25,510 --> 00:47:22,000
side of it is there but you're also

1088
00:47:27,670 --> 00:47:25,520
into the science of things

1089
00:47:30,309 --> 00:47:27,680
where where does that happen with you

1090
00:47:32,549 --> 00:47:30,319
are they starting to collide

1091
00:47:34,470 --> 00:47:32,559
of course you know quantum physics is

1092
00:47:36,230 --> 00:47:34,480
the key and actually at contact in the

1093
00:47:38,870 --> 00:47:36,240
desert i am doing a lecture

1094
00:47:40,470 --> 00:47:38,880
called ufos quantum physics and

1095
00:47:42,870 --> 00:47:40,480
consciousness

1096
00:47:43,589 --> 00:47:42,880
quantum physics is the science of

1097
00:47:46,390 --> 00:47:43,599
consciousness

1098
00:47:47,190 --> 00:47:46,400
it's the science of the observer

1099
00:47:50,950 --> 00:47:47,200
thoughts

1100
00:47:52,309 --> 00:47:50,960
are things so we need to incorporate a

1101
00:47:54,630 --> 00:47:52,319
greater science

1102
00:47:55,750 --> 00:47:54,640
if we're going to go and understand the

1103
00:47:58,870 --> 00:47:55,760
phenomena that

1104
00:47:59,349 --> 00:47:58,880
is a major consent concern for me and

1105
00:48:02,230 --> 00:47:59,359
you

1106
00:48:03,589 --> 00:48:02,240
there's something else happening here

1107
00:48:06,630 --> 00:48:03,599
that doesn't fit

1108
00:48:09,349 --> 00:48:06,640
newtonian mechanistic physics

1109
00:48:10,390 --> 00:48:09,359
entropy is only for closed systems there

1110
00:48:13,750 --> 00:48:10,400
is something

1111
00:48:16,150 --> 00:48:13,760
like a multi-dimensional aspect

1112
00:48:18,549 --> 00:48:16,160
to our consciousness i know this because

1113
00:48:20,950 --> 00:48:18,559
when i teach remote viewing

1114
00:48:21,750 --> 00:48:20,960
half the class or more gets to be

1115
00:48:24,230 --> 00:48:21,760
non-local

1116
00:48:25,030 --> 00:48:24,240
they can see the remote viewing target

1117
00:48:26,630 --> 00:48:25,040
the quar

1118
00:48:28,470 --> 00:48:26,640
if i just give them a number they can

1119
00:48:29,109 --> 00:48:28,480
see it there's there's something

1120
00:48:32,069 --> 00:48:29,119
happening

1121
00:48:32,950 --> 00:48:32,079
right now on planet earth that is

1122
00:48:35,990 --> 00:48:32,960
shifting

1123
00:48:38,950 --> 00:48:36,000
our vibration and opening up our brains

1124
00:48:39,910 --> 00:48:38,960
to more awareness now of course this was

1125
00:48:43,750 --> 00:48:39,920
discussed

1126
00:48:46,230 --> 00:48:43,760
uh quite openly in 1970

1127
00:48:47,910 --> 00:48:46,240
right okay we're that's it we're wait

1128
00:48:49,270 --> 00:48:47,920
this is the spiritual movement this is

1129
00:48:51,270 --> 00:48:49,280
the consciousness movement

1130
00:48:54,150 --> 00:48:51,280
this is the awakened community we're

1131
00:48:57,190 --> 00:48:54,160
here that was 50 years ago

1132
00:49:01,109 --> 00:48:57,200
right and i

1133
00:49:04,790 --> 00:49:01,119
feel i feel today at the age of 58

1134
00:49:06,630 --> 00:49:04,800
that it that is exactly what is going on

1135
00:49:08,230 --> 00:49:06,640
but i think that this time it really is

1136
00:49:10,630 --> 00:49:08,240
going on now

1137
00:49:12,790 --> 00:49:10,640
well you know it takes hundreds of years

1138
00:49:14,390 --> 00:49:12,800
for a world view to shift

1139
00:49:15,990 --> 00:49:14,400
sure you know we'll talk about my book

1140
00:49:20,309 --> 00:49:16,000
later but john mack talks

1141
00:49:24,230 --> 00:49:20,319
about this that um world views happen

1142
00:49:24,630 --> 00:49:24,240
as new anomalies come into perspective

1143
00:49:26,069 --> 00:49:24,640
so

1144
00:49:28,549 --> 00:49:26,079
it's going to take a couple of hundred

1145
00:49:30,150 --> 00:49:28,559
years maybe the 70s or the 60s or the

1146
00:49:30,950 --> 00:49:30,160
age of aquarius whatever you want to

1147
00:49:34,390 --> 00:49:30,960
call it

1148
00:49:37,589 --> 00:49:34,400
was just the igniting of a spark

1149
00:49:38,630 --> 00:49:37,599
and that spark takes a long time to fuel

1150
00:49:41,750 --> 00:49:38,640
but you know

1151
00:49:44,630 --> 00:49:41,760
everyone's now talking about health food

1152
00:49:45,270 --> 00:49:44,640
and massage was taboo 50 years ago and

1153
00:49:47,670 --> 00:49:45,280
there's

1154
00:49:48,790 --> 00:49:47,680
so much and ufos we'll get into that but

1155
00:49:51,829 --> 00:49:48,800
ufos are

1156
00:49:54,870 --> 00:49:51,839
mainstream topics on the front page

1157
00:49:57,670 --> 00:49:54,880
news if anything's new age it's that

1158
00:49:58,710 --> 00:49:57,680
because it is about changing our view of

1159
00:50:00,630 --> 00:49:58,720
reality

1160
00:50:02,309 --> 00:50:00,640
and and this is also what we've just

1161
00:50:03,030 --> 00:50:02,319
been through the last year and a half

1162
00:50:06,069 --> 00:50:03,040
the whole

1163
00:50:08,309 --> 00:50:06,079
covert emergency quarantine has been

1164
00:50:10,870 --> 00:50:08,319
about a fundamental shift in reality

1165
00:50:12,230 --> 00:50:10,880
and this has been a preparation for

1166
00:50:13,910 --> 00:50:12,240
what's coming i think

1167
00:50:15,829 --> 00:50:13,920
i don't want to wait i don't want to

1168
00:50:18,230 --> 00:50:15,839
wait a couple hundred years

1169
00:50:19,670 --> 00:50:18,240
all right now what's up hey jimmy you

1170
00:50:23,109 --> 00:50:19,680
are doing your part

1171
00:50:23,589 --> 00:50:23,119
right now turning those faders on to

1172
00:50:27,589 --> 00:50:23,599
what

1173
00:50:30,950 --> 00:50:27,599
so you're not waiting

1174
00:50:32,710 --> 00:50:30,960
you're in the mix jimmy yeah yeah i feel

1175
00:50:34,150 --> 00:50:32,720
it but you know what i also hear from

1176
00:50:36,870 --> 00:50:34,160
the faders

1177
00:50:39,190 --> 00:50:36,880
dude if i don't get to 5d this year i'm

1178
00:50:42,549 --> 00:50:39,200
out

1179
00:50:43,270 --> 00:50:42,559
you know it's it it doesn't happen that

1180
00:50:46,630 --> 00:50:43,280
way

1181
00:50:48,470 --> 00:50:46,640
you know we are 5d first of all if you

1182
00:50:49,270 --> 00:50:48,480
do a remote viewing class with me or

1183
00:50:51,990 --> 00:50:49,280
anyone else you

1184
00:50:54,470 --> 00:50:52,000
will learn that your consciousness is

1185
00:50:57,750 --> 00:50:54,480
non-local that you can see beyond

1186
00:50:59,430 --> 00:50:57,760
time and space and that's 5d you just

1187
00:51:03,270 --> 00:50:59,440
have to practice it

1188
00:51:05,270 --> 00:51:03,280
it's um it is up to us to take charge of

1189
00:51:07,670 --> 00:51:05,280
our reality and so

1190
00:51:10,309 --> 00:51:07,680
it is really happening i'm serious jimmy

1191
00:51:12,950 --> 00:51:10,319
this change is something we are

1192
00:51:15,109 --> 00:51:12,960
right in the middle of and you know the

1193
00:51:17,109 --> 00:51:15,119
world is not what it was two years ago

1194
00:51:20,549 --> 00:51:17,119
you you can agree

1195
00:51:25,750 --> 00:51:20,559
i am excited about what is happening now

1196
00:51:29,750 --> 00:51:25,760
um i felt that last year

1197
00:51:32,470 --> 00:51:29,760
uh with at the beginning of covet

1198
00:51:33,670 --> 00:51:32,480
i had suggested to everybody look at the

1199
00:51:35,829 --> 00:51:33,680
end of this

1200
00:51:37,190 --> 00:51:35,839
we're gonna recognize the world

1201
00:51:39,109 --> 00:51:37,200
differently we're gonna look at

1202
00:51:40,470 --> 00:51:39,119
friends and family and people around the

1203
00:51:42,870 --> 00:51:40,480
world differently

1204
00:51:44,950 --> 00:51:42,880
we're gonna come out of this a happier

1205
00:51:45,589 --> 00:51:44,960
better you know it may not seem like

1206
00:51:48,630 --> 00:51:45,599
that

1207
00:51:49,990 --> 00:51:48,640
now but this is an opportunity for us to

1208
00:51:52,790 --> 00:51:50,000
wake up

1209
00:51:53,109 --> 00:51:52,800
right absolutely absolutely and and i do

1210
00:51:59,910 --> 00:51:53,119
i

1211
00:52:02,710 --> 00:51:59,920
don't know what

1212
00:52:04,870 --> 00:52:02,720
would he higher vibrations i think covet

1213
00:52:05,349 --> 00:52:04,880
is not triggering the higher vibrations

1214
00:52:08,630 --> 00:52:05,359
it's

1215
00:52:11,349 --> 00:52:08,640
triggering us to look at change to

1216
00:52:13,430 --> 00:52:11,359
not there is no more normal anymore

1217
00:52:16,150 --> 00:52:13,440
what's triggering the higher vibration

1218
00:52:16,870 --> 00:52:16,160
is that the actual frequency of the

1219
00:52:19,430 --> 00:52:16,880
earth

1220
00:52:20,950 --> 00:52:19,440
and our bodies and our levels of

1221
00:52:23,430 --> 00:52:20,960
consciousness is being

1222
00:52:24,390 --> 00:52:23,440
uplifted somehow i can't explain the

1223
00:52:27,030 --> 00:52:24,400
mechanism

1224
00:52:29,270 --> 00:52:27,040
there's just a quickening as it's been

1225
00:52:31,750 --> 00:52:29,280
called so in this quickening

1226
00:52:34,069 --> 00:52:31,760
more ideas are opening up more

1227
00:52:37,030 --> 00:52:34,079
possibilities more people are having ufo

1228
00:52:43,430 --> 00:52:37,040
contacts there's something going on

1229
00:52:48,230 --> 00:52:47,109
and and it seems like that's how for me

1230
00:52:51,030 --> 00:52:48,240
it is i mean

1231
00:52:51,750 --> 00:52:51,040
i don't know what is normal anymore

1232
00:52:55,270 --> 00:52:51,760
maybe i

1233
00:52:57,430 --> 00:52:55,280
um what's quickening is the whole rate

1234
00:52:57,990 --> 00:52:57,440
of the of the solar system itself the

1235
00:53:01,109 --> 00:52:58,000
whole

1236
00:53:02,309 --> 00:53:01,119
in

1237
00:53:04,549 --> 00:53:02,319
you know someone said if you take

1238
00:53:06,549 --> 00:53:04,559
someone who lived 100 years ago and

1239
00:53:07,990 --> 00:53:06,559
put them in this in this current day

1240
00:53:09,670 --> 00:53:08,000
they couldn't stand it because the

1241
00:53:11,670 --> 00:53:09,680
vibration would be much quicker

1242
00:53:13,270 --> 00:53:11,680
as we think we're doing and some people

1243
00:53:14,870 --> 00:53:13,280
call this the age of ascension whatever

1244
00:53:16,950 --> 00:53:14,880
you want to call this

1245
00:53:18,710 --> 00:53:16,960
things are getting faster we can't see

1246
00:53:22,470 --> 00:53:18,720
it because we're in it

1247
00:53:24,470 --> 00:53:22,480
but it is everything is speeding up

1248
00:53:26,470 --> 00:53:24,480
including our cellular structures the

1249
00:53:29,030 --> 00:53:26,480
vibrations of our cellular structures

1250
00:53:30,069 --> 00:53:29,040
that's my guess yeah i would i would

1251
00:53:32,549 --> 00:53:30,079
agree with that

1252
00:53:34,549 --> 00:53:32,559
and there's a there's another part when

1253
00:53:37,750 --> 00:53:34,559
you say speeding up

1254
00:53:39,750 --> 00:53:37,760
um even those that don't know

1255
00:53:41,270 --> 00:53:39,760
what is going on around them you know

1256
00:53:43,510 --> 00:53:41,280
about consciousness or

1257
00:53:44,630 --> 00:53:43,520
you know they're just on a nine to five

1258
00:53:47,990 --> 00:53:44,640
uh schedule

1259
00:53:48,790 --> 00:53:48,000
and and nothing is special right i get

1260
00:53:51,990 --> 00:53:48,800
that

1261
00:53:53,190 --> 00:53:52,000
but their lives are speeding up our

1262
00:53:56,470 --> 00:53:53,200
lives are speeding up

1263
00:53:59,190 --> 00:53:56,480
it's it's social media it's the media

1264
00:54:00,470 --> 00:53:59,200
it's life it's gps it's cell phones it's

1265
00:54:03,349 --> 00:54:00,480
ipads

1266
00:54:05,750 --> 00:54:03,359
everything around us now is connected

1267
00:54:08,470 --> 00:54:05,760
and it's information 24

1268
00:54:10,390 --> 00:54:08,480
7. a smart house smart refrigerator

1269
00:54:13,829 --> 00:54:10,400
smart toothbrush right

1270
00:54:17,109 --> 00:54:13,839
everything is now now now now now

1271
00:54:18,870 --> 00:54:17,119
and i know but that's also in the way a

1272
00:54:21,910 --> 00:54:18,880
little bit it's speeding up but

1273
00:54:22,829 --> 00:54:21,920
in order to really feel what i'm saying

1274
00:54:26,150 --> 00:54:22,839
you have to

1275
00:54:28,069 --> 00:54:26,160
disconnect yes take a day off from

1276
00:54:30,309 --> 00:54:28,079
social media and every including you

1277
00:54:33,589 --> 00:54:30,319
jimmy you and rita take a day off

1278
00:54:34,230 --> 00:54:33,599
to sit in the woods go i'm in sedona

1279
00:54:37,270 --> 00:54:34,240
here go

1280
00:54:39,349 --> 00:54:37,280
climb a mountain somewhere and just be

1281
00:54:41,349 --> 00:54:39,359
with the vibration of the earth because

1282
00:54:44,390 --> 00:54:41,359
that is really where it's happening

1283
00:54:47,750 --> 00:54:44,400
that's what grounds it into the

1284
00:54:49,910 --> 00:54:47,760
real world the the connection to nature

1285
00:54:52,069 --> 00:54:49,920
that's what we all have to do or

1286
00:54:54,230 --> 00:54:52,079
meditate or go within you know the

1287
00:54:55,190 --> 00:54:54,240
further you go within the more you can

1288
00:55:00,150 --> 00:54:55,200
go

1289
00:55:02,230 --> 00:55:00,160
you don't have a giant pyramid over your

1290
00:55:04,150 --> 00:55:02,240
bed do you

1291
00:55:05,510 --> 00:55:04,160
you know that that was a phase so you

1292
00:55:07,430 --> 00:55:05,520
talked about phases

1293
00:55:08,710 --> 00:55:07,440
the crystals were a phase i mean right

1294
00:55:11,270 --> 00:55:08,720
people are still into that

1295
00:55:11,990 --> 00:55:11,280
the pyramids the past life stuff i mean

1296
00:55:14,870 --> 00:55:12,000
people are still

1297
00:55:15,589 --> 00:55:14,880
into this but we as a collective are

1298
00:55:22,789 --> 00:55:15,599
moving

1299
00:55:25,030 --> 00:55:22,799
to the 180 days revelation

1300
00:55:26,309 --> 00:55:25,040
that's happening in june no matter what

1301
00:55:30,069 --> 00:55:26,319
that is we are

1302
00:55:32,470 --> 00:55:30,079
all uh kind of on the edge of our seats

1303
00:55:34,309 --> 00:55:32,480
waiting for a revelation i read that

1304
00:55:36,390 --> 00:55:34,319
marco rubio article

1305
00:55:37,990 --> 00:55:36,400
he doesn't know what's going on or maybe

1306
00:55:38,870 --> 00:55:38,000
he knows a little bit more than he's

1307
00:55:41,349 --> 00:55:38,880
saying

1308
00:55:43,589 --> 00:55:41,359
nobody knows but that's also part of

1309
00:55:46,870 --> 00:55:43,599
this acceleration that these beings

1310
00:55:48,710 --> 00:55:46,880
whoever they are out there are having

1311
00:55:50,230 --> 00:55:48,720
we're having more sightings of them

1312
00:55:52,630 --> 00:55:50,240
they're visiting us more

1313
00:55:53,670 --> 00:55:52,640
people are having internal intuitive

1314
00:55:55,750 --> 00:55:53,680
contact

1315
00:55:56,950 --> 00:55:55,760
something's happening with the external

1316
00:56:01,349 --> 00:55:56,960
reality that's going to

1317
00:56:03,349 --> 00:56:01,359
pop us into some new revelation and

1318
00:56:05,349 --> 00:56:03,359
nobody's knows what it is but we can

1319
00:56:08,549 --> 00:56:05,359
almost feel it can't you jimmy

1320
00:56:09,829 --> 00:56:08,559
i do i do and uh when we come back after

1321
00:56:12,870 --> 00:56:09,839
the break

1322
00:56:15,109 --> 00:56:12,880
um i want to talk about your new book

1323
00:56:15,990 --> 00:56:15,119
and the the question that i want to ask

1324
00:56:19,349 --> 00:56:16,000
before the break

1325
00:56:20,549 --> 00:56:19,359
is alan why now i mean the timing of the

1326
00:56:23,750 --> 00:56:20,559
book couldn't be better

1327
00:56:27,030 --> 00:56:23,760
right exactly it's a perfect launch but

1328
00:56:29,190 --> 00:56:27,040
why why decide to write this book now

1329
00:56:30,470 --> 00:56:29,200
okay we'll talk about it no no that's

1330
00:56:33,589 --> 00:56:30,480
the question

1331
00:56:33,910 --> 00:56:33,599
yeah we have two minutes it's called a

1332
00:56:36,390 --> 00:56:33,920
set

1333
00:56:39,430 --> 00:56:36,400
up you've been hosting radio for 20

1334
00:56:41,190 --> 00:56:39,440
years i just set you up before the break

1335
00:56:43,430 --> 00:56:41,200
and you didn't catch that was an

1336
00:56:45,670 --> 00:56:43,440
underhand softball pitch

1337
00:56:47,670 --> 00:56:45,680
thank you for the pass over okay i

1338
00:56:48,470 --> 00:56:47,680
caught that one finally after a fumbling

1339
00:56:52,230 --> 00:56:48,480
a few times

1340
00:56:53,190 --> 00:56:52,240
okay why now because it is time there's

1341
00:56:56,630 --> 00:56:53,200
a crack

1342
00:56:58,630 --> 00:56:56,640
in government the ets i think if you

1343
00:57:01,430 --> 00:56:58,640
want to know have put pressure

1344
00:57:02,150 --> 00:57:01,440
on the u.s government and say you better

1345
00:57:05,190 --> 00:57:02,160
tell them

1346
00:57:07,030 --> 00:57:05,200
or we're going to show up unexpectedly

1347
00:57:09,430 --> 00:57:07,040
so the subtitle of my book is

1348
00:57:12,069 --> 00:57:09,440
preparations for the new realities

1349
00:57:14,069 --> 00:57:12,079
of extraterrestrial existence i

1350
00:57:14,549 --> 00:57:14,079
suspected something was going on i went

1351
00:57:16,710 --> 00:57:14,559
to st

1352
00:57:18,950 --> 00:57:16,720
martin's and i said i have this idea for

1353
00:57:21,109 --> 00:57:18,960
a book and we kind of

1354
00:57:23,190 --> 00:57:21,119
negotiated what that would be i had an

1355
00:57:25,829 --> 00:57:23,200
idea for a slightly different he's

1356
00:57:26,390 --> 00:57:25,839
my editor said no let's get everyone

1357
00:57:28,390 --> 00:57:26,400
there

1358
00:57:30,470 --> 00:57:28,400
who you know and i know them pretty well

1359
00:57:33,670 --> 00:57:30,480
like you jimmy we're on the inside there

1360
00:57:35,510 --> 00:57:33,680
and get them to say what is making

1361
00:57:38,630 --> 00:57:35,520
contact to them so

1362
00:57:41,670 --> 00:57:38,640
it's just a synchronicity that this book

1363
00:57:42,630 --> 00:57:41,680
came out exactly when the government was

1364
00:57:45,430 --> 00:57:42,640
opening up

1365
00:57:46,230 --> 00:57:45,440
and ufos were right arriving and people

1366
00:57:49,430 --> 00:57:46,240
having this

1367
00:57:51,750 --> 00:57:49,440
internal contact i mean we're all doing

1368
00:57:53,270 --> 00:57:51,760
our mission on a higher level we don't

1369
00:57:54,630 --> 00:57:53,280
know why we're doing it

1370
00:57:57,430 --> 00:57:54,640
where you don't know why you're doing

1371
00:57:59,430 --> 00:57:57,440
this program of course you love it but

1372
00:58:01,190 --> 00:57:59,440
really why you're doing this is for a

1373
00:58:04,390 --> 00:58:01,200
much higher reason than i think

1374
00:58:06,549 --> 00:58:04,400
we all suspect one of the things that i

1375
00:58:07,589 --> 00:58:06,559
enjoyed about the book and it's a it's a

1376
00:58:09,789 --> 00:58:07,599
great read

1377
00:58:11,430 --> 00:58:09,799
and the links everybody it's over at

1378
00:58:13,190 --> 00:58:11,440
jimmychurchradio.com head straight to

1379
00:58:14,950 --> 00:58:13,200
amazon and pick up your copy

1380
00:58:16,470 --> 00:58:14,960
is that it's a it's a collection of

1381
00:58:19,670 --> 00:58:16,480
essays you've written one

1382
00:58:22,549 --> 00:58:19,680
yourself and then there's uh 10 other

1383
00:58:22,870 --> 00:58:22,559
uh essays that are there uh we're go

1384
00:58:26,789 --> 00:58:22,880
we'll

1385
00:58:28,789 --> 00:58:26,799
and authors are

1386
00:58:31,910 --> 00:58:28,799
our favorite people though right right

1387
00:58:35,030 --> 00:58:31,920
but but each take is different

1388
00:58:38,309 --> 00:58:35,040
and it was such an interesting read

1389
00:58:39,670 --> 00:58:38,319
i you know it's too easy i think for all

1390
00:58:42,789 --> 00:58:39,680
of us to

1391
00:58:44,630 --> 00:58:42,799
um extrapolate the basics and and

1392
00:58:45,829 --> 00:58:44,640
discuss that that's not what happens in

1393
00:58:48,309 --> 00:58:45,839
this book

1394
00:58:50,390 --> 00:58:48,319
everybody's take is a personal one and

1395
00:58:52,390 --> 00:58:50,400
it's a it's just a great read

1396
00:58:53,750 --> 00:58:52,400
well you know i wanted to make it very

1397
00:58:55,829 --> 00:58:53,760
readable and you know what

1398
00:58:57,190 --> 00:58:55,839
what after interviewing people and you

1399
00:59:00,230 --> 00:58:57,200
talking to everyone

1400
00:59:00,870 --> 00:59:00,240
no one has the whole truth no one sees

1401
00:59:03,990 --> 00:59:00,880
the whole

1402
00:59:06,710 --> 00:59:04,000
elephant i want the reader to take all

1403
00:59:09,670 --> 00:59:06,720
these pieces put it together and make

1404
00:59:11,190 --> 00:59:09,680
their own conclusion about the phenomena

1405
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because

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it is still enigmatic

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00:59:19,430 --> 00:59:16,960
it's still a mystery but if we put these

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puzzle pieces together perhaps

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00:59:24,150 --> 00:59:22,319
we can start to see a structure of what

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00:59:24,549 --> 00:59:24,160
this thing is really about and that was

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00:59:27,109 --> 00:59:24,559
my

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00:59:27,910 --> 00:59:27,119
idea and formulating it and people are

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saying

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that they're creating their own idea

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00:59:33,349 --> 00:59:31,359
about

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00:59:35,109 --> 00:59:33,359
the phenomena and what that means to

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00:59:37,190 --> 00:59:35,119
them so it's very exciting to hear

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00:59:39,349 --> 00:59:37,200
responses like yours and say

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00:59:40,470 --> 00:59:39,359
this is exactly what i intended because

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as you know

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the government doesn't know the

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politicians don't know

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the scientists don't know even the

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contact teas have their own version

1425
00:59:53,589 --> 00:59:51,760
but yet let's put this all this together

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00:59:53,990 --> 00:59:53,599
and make a soup and see what that tastes

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00:59:55,349 --> 00:59:54,000
like

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let's take our break right here our

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guest tonight alan steinfeld allen i

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often say if anybody says to you i know

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what's going on with e.t

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our guest tonight alan steinfeld i'm

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your host jimmy church this is fade to

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welcome back fade to black i am your

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host jimmy church on the game changer

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not working kg kgra the planet our guest

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tonight

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01:05:43,470 --> 01:05:40,559
alan steinfeld now his new book

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is out in the links for it or over at

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there it's making contact

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extraterrestrial existence

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and alan what i what i want to talk

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01:05:57,270 --> 01:05:54,480
about uh

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01:05:57,829 --> 01:05:57,280
is how you thought through this book

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because

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it is a series of essays and

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uh the first question is how did you

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compile the list

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well i talked to some of our best

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friends but i wanted to make it like a

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baseball

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lineup you know you know a lineup uh you

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know you get a

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uh um the first batter kind of

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hits it off and then the others and then

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you get the heavy hitters and then you

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get the cleanup

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that was sort of the structure of how i

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wanted to

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um put this out so i start with what i

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call the investigators people just

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looking at the

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external part of the phenomena the nuts

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and bolts

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and the government cover-up so the

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perfect person for that is nick pope

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he's a

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insider in the uk he doesn't talk about

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consciousness he doesn't talk about any

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of that

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he just says and he actually starts off

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with saying

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i'm the villain in this book i'm going

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to tell you why the government

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keeps its secrets so i thought that was

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the best great way to

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to kind of kick off the vine because we

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want to know why are we not

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01:07:09,190 --> 01:07:07,200
hearing the truth and nick goes through

1595
01:07:10,069 --> 01:07:09,200
that and says because there's technology

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secrets there's

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there's um you know enemy um spies

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there's all the stuff we think about but

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he also says

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he has hope that there will be a

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disclosure and he

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and he really thinks that our evolution

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is going to the stars so nick makes a

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01:07:28,710 --> 01:07:27,039
little bit

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01:07:30,630 --> 01:07:28,720
of a breakthrough so from nick i go to

1606
01:07:33,670 --> 01:07:30,640
grant cameron who's looked at

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01:07:35,670 --> 01:07:33,680
all the uf us presidents and the

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01:07:37,750 --> 01:07:35,680
relationship to the phenom but

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01:07:39,910 --> 01:07:37,760
but grant starts to go a little more

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internally where he says he realized it

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01:07:46,630 --> 01:07:40,319
was

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how it affected us personally so we go

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01:07:50,630 --> 01:07:47,200
from the

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exoteric to the esoteric to the internal

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01:07:54,069 --> 01:07:51,680
then i pick up

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01:07:55,430 --> 01:07:54,079
with jj and desiree hertog who talk

1617
01:07:57,230 --> 01:07:55,440
about the higher

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01:07:59,109 --> 01:07:57,240
beings that may be here the

1619
01:08:00,549 --> 01:07:59,119
interdimensional beings that goes a

1620
01:08:03,430 --> 01:08:00,559
little far out but they

1621
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really are grounded in science too and

1622
01:08:07,510 --> 01:08:05,119
then of course our favorite

1623
01:08:08,829 --> 01:08:07,520
linda molten howe is there talking about

1624
01:08:11,829 --> 01:08:08,839
her personal

1625
01:08:13,029 --> 01:08:11,839
experiences as a child and wondering

1626
01:08:15,910 --> 01:08:13,039
about nature and

1627
01:08:16,950 --> 01:08:15,920
wondering about the moon being hollow

1628
01:08:19,829 --> 01:08:16,960
and then her

1629
01:08:21,269 --> 01:08:19,839
her journey into cattle mutilations and

1630
01:08:23,669 --> 01:08:21,279
her wake up that

1631
01:08:24,709 --> 01:08:23,679
yes these are not being done from anyone

1632
01:08:26,470 --> 01:08:24,719
on this planet

1633
01:08:27,990 --> 01:08:26,480
and then the whistleblowers that have

1634
01:08:30,550 --> 01:08:28,000
come to

1635
01:08:32,630 --> 01:08:30,560
linda talking about what they know the

1636
01:08:34,309 --> 01:08:32,640
three competing extraterrestrial races

1637
01:08:37,669 --> 01:08:34,319
i'm sure you've talked to her about this

1638
01:08:41,030 --> 01:08:37,679
so she gets deeper into the phenomena

1639
01:08:43,430 --> 01:08:41,040
and then a real coup for this book is an

1640
01:08:45,829 --> 01:08:43,440
unpublished essay by john mcafee

1641
01:08:47,510 --> 01:08:45,839
now stop right stop right there i was

1642
01:08:51,430 --> 01:08:47,520
waiting for you to get to

1643
01:08:55,269 --> 01:08:51,440
uh this point stop stop right there alan

1644
01:08:57,349 --> 01:08:55,279
that that that's a good get how did you

1645
01:08:58,390 --> 01:08:57,359
how did you pull that up now everybody

1646
01:09:01,990 --> 01:08:58,400
here is alive

1647
01:09:04,950 --> 01:09:02,000
by the way and and

1648
01:09:06,309 --> 01:09:04,960
and i was surprised uh and happy of

1649
01:09:09,510 --> 01:09:06,319
course to see

1650
01:09:12,789 --> 01:09:09,520
john mack included in this book but then

1651
01:09:14,309 --> 01:09:12,799
we have an unpublished essay how did how

1652
01:09:16,630 --> 01:09:14,319
did you get this how did you

1653
01:09:17,430 --> 01:09:16,640
how did you pull that off well first of

1654
01:09:19,189 --> 01:09:17,440
all i want to say

1655
01:09:20,950 --> 01:09:19,199
even though this essay well it was

1656
01:09:21,829 --> 01:09:20,960
really a talk that was turned into an

1657
01:09:23,829 --> 01:09:21,839
essay but

1658
01:09:25,829 --> 01:09:23,839
even though it's been about 20 years

1659
01:09:28,709 --> 01:09:25,839
since john mack was around

1660
01:09:29,189 --> 01:09:28,719
what he talks about in this essay is

1661
01:09:33,669 --> 01:09:29,199
just

1662
01:09:36,149 --> 01:09:33,679
in that whole book

1663
01:09:38,070 --> 01:09:36,159
so i knew john we would go out you know

1664
01:09:39,110 --> 01:09:38,080
with a bunch of people to dinner when he

1665
01:09:41,269 --> 01:09:39,120
came to new york

1666
01:09:42,470 --> 01:09:41,279
and he talked to the institute of noetic

1667
01:09:44,309 --> 01:09:42,480
sciences or

1668
01:09:46,470 --> 01:09:44,319
gave a lecture i videotaped him a couple

1669
01:09:47,669 --> 01:09:46,480
of times i videotaped him at the wilhelm

1670
01:09:50,709 --> 01:09:47,679
wright conference

1671
01:09:52,789 --> 01:09:50,719
in new york and i interviewed him uh

1672
01:09:54,550 --> 01:09:52,799
i think once but we we were hanging out

1673
01:09:56,070 --> 01:09:54,560
he was friends he knew me i mean not

1674
01:09:58,310 --> 01:09:56,080
great friends because he a lot of people

1675
01:10:01,110 --> 01:09:58,320
knew him but i knew his archivist

1676
01:10:03,110 --> 01:10:01,120
and of course everybody was it was an

1677
01:10:05,590 --> 01:10:03,120
incredible loss for our

1678
01:10:06,870 --> 01:10:05,600
um for our industry if we want to call

1679
01:10:10,070 --> 01:10:06,880
it for uh for our

1680
01:10:12,070 --> 01:10:10,080
subculture so i talked to will who runs

1681
01:10:12,390 --> 01:10:12,080
the ran the archives and it came across

1682
01:10:37,910 --> 01:10:12,400
a

1683
01:10:40,870 --> 01:10:37,920
of

1684
01:10:42,310 --> 01:10:40,880
what we need to do now in order to

1685
01:10:45,990 --> 01:10:42,320
accept the phenomena

1686
01:10:48,630 --> 01:10:46,000
he says what we need are other ways of

1687
01:10:51,430 --> 01:10:48,640
knowing we cannot know this phenomena

1688
01:10:54,070 --> 01:10:51,440
with our mechanistic logical mind

1689
01:10:57,189 --> 01:10:54,080
we have to tap into a right brain

1690
01:11:00,550 --> 01:10:57,199
awareness a holistic awareness

1691
01:11:03,270 --> 01:11:00,560
and apprehension versus comprehension

1692
01:11:03,830 --> 01:11:03,280
if you can understand what that means so

1693
01:11:06,790 --> 01:11:03,840
john

1694
01:11:08,870 --> 01:11:06,800
um has worked with worked with abductees

1695
01:11:11,510 --> 01:11:08,880
and the end of that essay he goes

1696
01:11:12,229 --> 01:11:11,520
into a deep conversation he had with one

1697
01:11:15,270 --> 01:11:12,239
of his

1698
01:11:17,510 --> 01:11:15,280
abductees who no longer wears an apti

1699
01:11:18,470 --> 01:11:17,520
abductee after working with john she saw

1700
01:11:20,149 --> 01:11:18,480
that there was a

1701
01:11:22,709 --> 01:11:20,159
level of love and consciousness that

1702
01:11:24,709 --> 01:11:22,719
these beings were really trying to

1703
01:11:26,630 --> 01:11:24,719
share with us even though it was

1704
01:11:29,590 --> 01:11:26,640
initially traumatic

1705
01:11:30,470 --> 01:11:29,600
and um so i just i just knew how to get

1706
01:11:33,350 --> 01:11:30,480
to john's

1707
01:11:34,310 --> 01:11:33,360
archivist and got okay by his son danny

1708
01:11:37,350 --> 01:11:34,320
who's uh

1709
01:11:39,270 --> 01:11:37,360
in charge of his estate and it was just

1710
01:11:39,990 --> 01:11:39,280
the per that was really the cleanup like

1711
01:11:41,669 --> 01:11:40,000
you know the heavy

1712
01:11:43,669 --> 01:11:41,679
hitter um right there in the middle of

1713
01:11:47,270 --> 01:11:43,679
the lineup right that was it

1714
01:11:51,590 --> 01:11:47,280
yeah john and linda and boom whitley

1715
01:11:54,790 --> 01:11:51,600
you know what the uh the the john mack

1716
01:11:56,310 --> 01:11:54,800
uh section of the book i'm reading it

1717
01:11:58,149 --> 01:11:56,320
and i know it's you know i know it's

1718
01:12:01,510 --> 01:11:58,159
john i know it's his words

1719
01:12:02,790 --> 01:12:01,520
yeah and that could have been typed this

1720
01:12:05,990 --> 01:12:02,800
morning

1721
01:12:09,110 --> 01:12:06,000
exactly that's how much of a visionary

1722
01:12:11,990 --> 01:12:09,120
john was how much ahead of his time and

1723
01:12:12,790 --> 01:12:12,000
understanding this phenomena he really

1724
01:12:15,630 --> 01:12:12,800
brought

1725
01:12:18,709 --> 01:12:15,640
the nuts and bolts into the terms of

1726
01:12:22,390 --> 01:12:18,719
consciousness and subjective reality

1727
01:12:26,470 --> 01:12:22,400
that's his gift to to our people

1728
01:12:29,669 --> 01:12:26,480
it was it was just an amazing read

1729
01:12:33,590 --> 01:12:29,679
um now uh you just mentioned oh yeah

1730
01:12:37,110 --> 01:12:33,600
okay so uh whitley's uh contribution

1731
01:12:38,229 --> 01:12:37,120
uh to the book again uh i i've read the

1732
01:12:40,870 --> 01:12:38,239
book twice

1733
01:12:42,310 --> 01:12:40,880
okay oh yeah yeah absolutely well that's

1734
01:12:44,630 --> 01:12:42,320
because you kept calling me

1735
01:12:45,910 --> 01:12:44,640
did you finish it did you finish it i'm

1736
01:12:49,110 --> 01:12:45,920
reading man i'm

1737
01:12:49,990 --> 01:12:49,120
but um uh whitley uh you've got a few

1738
01:12:53,350 --> 01:12:50,000
quotes in the book

1739
01:12:56,790 --> 01:12:53,360
from whitley too as well um that

1740
01:13:00,709 --> 01:12:56,800
you set up uh really nicely uh but

1741
01:13:02,630 --> 01:13:00,719
uh whitley again uh just just amazing

1742
01:13:04,310 --> 01:13:02,640
well i put whitley also i do quote

1743
01:13:07,750 --> 01:13:04,320
whitley in the introduction

1744
01:13:11,910 --> 01:13:07,760
because whitley is i think the most

1745
01:13:14,709 --> 01:13:11,920
lucid contactee abductee we have

1746
01:13:15,910 --> 01:13:14,719
uh still with us on the planet and he is

1747
01:13:18,149 --> 01:13:15,920
going strong

1748
01:13:19,910 --> 01:13:18,159
he's had more awake experience lots of

1749
01:13:20,470 --> 01:13:19,920
people have contact with these beings

1750
01:13:23,270 --> 01:13:20,480
but they're

1751
01:13:23,590 --> 01:13:23,280
like me in a dream state whitley's done

1752
01:13:25,990 --> 01:13:23,600
the

1753
01:13:27,669 --> 01:13:26,000
inner work he's practiced a level of

1754
01:13:30,550 --> 01:13:27,679
lucid awareness

1755
01:13:30,950 --> 01:13:30,560
and i think this is really what we need

1756
01:13:33,990 --> 01:13:30,960
in

1757
01:13:36,709 --> 01:13:34,000
so

1758
01:13:37,750 --> 01:13:36,719
whitley because of sensing exercises in

1759
01:13:39,910 --> 01:13:37,760
the gurjev work

1760
01:13:41,510 --> 01:13:39,920
was he feels he was able to attract

1761
01:13:45,270 --> 01:13:41,520
these beings to him because

1762
01:13:46,390 --> 01:13:45,280
he admitted a sort of light essence in

1763
01:13:49,350 --> 01:13:46,400
this meditation

1764
01:13:50,870 --> 01:13:49,360
so um i think this is whitley is leading

1765
01:13:52,870 --> 01:13:50,880
the way and i thank

1766
01:13:55,030 --> 01:13:52,880
the leaders in this field in the

1767
01:13:57,430 --> 01:13:55,040
beginning i acknowledge the giants whose

1768
01:13:58,070 --> 01:13:57,440
shoulders we stood on me and you jimmy

1769
01:14:01,030 --> 01:13:58,080
to see

1770
01:14:02,149 --> 01:14:01,040
further into this reality bud hopkins

1771
01:14:05,030 --> 01:14:02,159
who i knew

1772
01:14:05,830 --> 01:14:05,040
uh whitley john mack and linda moulton

1773
01:14:08,470 --> 01:14:05,840
howe

1774
01:14:08,870 --> 01:14:08,480
the these are the michael jordans of our

1775
01:14:10,950 --> 01:14:08,880
league

1776
01:14:12,149 --> 01:14:10,960
that's what i love to say about them

1777
01:14:14,229 --> 01:14:12,159
yeah no it's true

1778
01:14:15,990 --> 01:14:14,239
you know it's it's really true and now

1779
01:14:19,110 --> 01:14:16,000
there was um

1780
01:14:19,910 --> 01:14:19,120
there was a for me a right-hand turn in

1781
01:14:22,630 --> 01:14:19,920
the book

1782
01:14:24,149 --> 01:14:22,640
and yes so uh and i'm talking about

1783
01:14:27,030 --> 01:14:24,159
daryl lanka

1784
01:14:28,390 --> 01:14:27,040
and and daryl who i think is one of the

1785
01:14:31,750 --> 01:14:28,400
brightest

1786
01:14:34,630 --> 01:14:31,760
uh people that i know that guy is

1787
01:14:35,590 --> 01:14:34,640
smart and what he has been doing with

1788
01:14:37,590 --> 01:14:35,600
bashar

1789
01:14:38,950 --> 01:14:37,600
um and i've been able to hang out with

1790
01:14:41,430 --> 01:14:38,960
him quite a bit and

1791
01:14:42,070 --> 01:14:41,440
and and and and sit through some uh

1792
01:14:44,870 --> 01:14:42,080
bashar

1793
01:14:45,669 --> 01:14:44,880
channeling in person and but there's

1794
01:14:49,110 --> 01:14:45,679
something about

1795
01:14:52,870 --> 01:14:49,120
daryl that uh intrigues me

1796
01:14:56,470 --> 01:14:52,880
so much i'm so interested but daryl

1797
01:14:58,950 --> 01:14:56,480
and bashar for those uninitiated

1798
01:15:01,110 --> 01:14:58,960
that's a whole nother pill to swallow

1799
01:15:04,550 --> 01:15:01,120
right we can talk about nick pope or

1800
01:15:06,950 --> 01:15:04,560
or grant or linda or john mack

1801
01:15:08,470 --> 01:15:06,960
you know these are these are subjects

1802
01:15:11,510 --> 01:15:08,480
that people can grasp

1803
01:15:13,830 --> 01:15:11,520
and understand pretty easily daryl anka

1804
01:15:15,189 --> 01:15:13,840
and his contribution to this book this

1805
01:15:18,709 --> 01:15:15,199
is something that people

1806
01:15:20,709 --> 01:15:18,719
uh um how do i say this they need to

1807
01:15:22,470 --> 01:15:20,719
approach this a bit differently if they

1808
01:15:24,870 --> 01:15:22,480
don't know who daryl is

1809
01:15:27,510 --> 01:15:24,880
well you're right the the book does make

1810
01:15:30,790 --> 01:15:27,520
a right hand turn here because what we

1811
01:15:34,870 --> 01:15:30,800
you know based on psychology and

1812
01:15:38,229 --> 01:15:34,880
philosophy suddenly becomes subjective

1813
01:15:40,070 --> 01:15:38,239
so up until uh the chapter with whitley

1814
01:15:40,950 --> 01:15:40,080
strieber and then my chapter about my

1815
01:15:43,830 --> 01:15:40,960
abduction

1816
01:15:44,870 --> 01:15:43,840
yeah i can tell my story but when you

1817
01:15:47,910 --> 01:15:44,880
get to daryl

1818
01:15:48,709 --> 01:15:47,920
and mary rodwell and carolyn corey it

1819
01:15:52,790 --> 01:15:48,719
becomes a

1820
01:15:54,870 --> 01:15:52,800
personal relationship with vzt and that

1821
01:15:56,310 --> 01:15:54,880
that may be too much for some people i

1822
01:15:58,709 --> 01:15:56,320
mean daryl says for

1823
01:16:00,870 --> 01:15:58,719
38 years he's had this ongoing

1824
01:16:04,229 --> 01:16:00,880
connection with bashar

1825
01:16:06,229 --> 01:16:04,239
so it's just a little step further than

1826
01:16:08,470 --> 01:16:06,239
the abductees who said i've had this

1827
01:16:11,110 --> 01:16:08,480
experience but then you say

1828
01:16:12,070 --> 01:16:11,120
oh yeah these ets are talking to me so

1829
01:16:14,470 --> 01:16:12,080
how far

1830
01:16:16,630 --> 01:16:14,480
can we go and you know i believe daryl

1831
01:16:17,030 --> 01:16:16,640
that this is his experience because he's

1832
01:16:19,910 --> 01:16:17,040
saying

1833
01:16:22,149 --> 01:16:19,920
things and bashar says things that seem

1834
01:16:24,229 --> 01:16:22,159
to be beyond the human realm

1835
01:16:26,149 --> 01:16:24,239
so you can doubt that and it is a

1836
01:16:28,390 --> 01:16:26,159
right-hand turn you're absolutely

1837
01:16:29,590 --> 01:16:28,400
correct in saying that it's a little

1838
01:16:32,229 --> 01:16:29,600
step but

1839
01:16:32,709 --> 01:16:32,239
when we accept the fact that maybe there

1840
01:16:37,990 --> 01:16:32,719
is

1841
01:16:40,149 --> 01:16:38,000
foot

1842
01:16:41,030 --> 01:16:40,159
on yet they're just saying there's stuff

1843
01:16:42,950 --> 01:16:41,040
out there they're not

1844
01:16:45,350 --> 01:16:42,960
willing to go to who's flying and why

1845
01:16:46,390 --> 01:16:45,360
they're here but once we accept the fact

1846
01:16:49,350 --> 01:16:46,400
that yes

1847
01:16:52,229 --> 01:16:49,360
people are taken then maybe the

1848
01:16:54,310 --> 01:16:52,239
abductees turn into a contact c

1849
01:16:55,430 --> 01:16:54,320
and they say there's a bigger picture

1850
01:16:58,149 --> 01:16:55,440
here and we're all

1851
01:17:00,550 --> 01:16:58,159
part of it and we need to learn to open

1852
01:17:00,870 --> 01:17:00,560
up our brains and consciousness in order

1853
01:17:04,870 --> 01:17:00,880
to

1854
01:17:08,390 --> 01:17:04,880
interface with these beings and so

1855
01:17:11,110 --> 01:17:08,400
daryl calls his contact telepathy

1856
01:17:12,070 --> 01:17:11,120
telepathy and empathy combined because

1857
01:17:15,270 --> 01:17:12,080
he says he

1858
01:17:17,430 --> 01:17:15,280
feels the quality of bashar's

1859
01:17:18,310 --> 01:17:17,440
thoughts doesn't necessarily hear them

1860
01:17:21,350 --> 01:17:18,320
as much as

1861
01:17:24,310 --> 01:17:21,360
feels into the communication

1862
01:17:24,870 --> 01:17:24,320
and that's an evolution for everyone so

1863
01:17:27,110 --> 01:17:24,880
uh

1864
01:17:28,229 --> 01:17:27,120
we just i accept people when if you told

1865
01:17:30,229 --> 01:17:28,239
me you went to mars

1866
01:17:32,630 --> 01:17:30,239
jimmy i would have to accept that i may

1867
01:17:33,189 --> 01:17:32,640
not believe it but i'd accept that as

1868
01:17:36,390 --> 01:17:33,199
your

1869
01:17:38,310 --> 01:17:36,400
truth i accept daryl's 38-year

1870
01:17:41,030 --> 01:17:38,320
relationship with bashar

1871
01:17:42,790 --> 01:17:41,040
as his truth and there's been a lot of

1872
01:17:45,430 --> 01:17:42,800
beautiful teachings

1873
01:17:46,870 --> 01:17:45,440
in that communication yeah i have uh

1874
01:17:49,910 --> 01:17:46,880
just like you

1875
01:17:52,310 --> 01:17:49,920
um i've had the opportunity uh to

1876
01:17:53,270 --> 01:17:52,320
introduce daryl a few times over the

1877
01:17:57,110 --> 01:17:53,280
years

1878
01:17:59,189 --> 01:17:57,120
and here i am uh backstage

1879
01:18:00,950 --> 01:17:59,199
with daryl one on one it's just us

1880
01:18:03,590 --> 01:18:00,960
there's nobody else around us

1881
01:18:04,630 --> 01:18:03,600
and and we're talking everything is no

1882
01:18:07,750 --> 01:18:04,640
it's daryl

1883
01:18:09,350 --> 01:18:07,760
right right then i go out on stage and i

1884
01:18:13,270 --> 01:18:09,360
introduce him

1885
01:18:15,830 --> 01:18:13,280
and then 30 seconds later he walks out

1886
01:18:17,350 --> 01:18:15,840
and he sits down and uh the last few

1887
01:18:18,070 --> 01:18:17,360
times i've done this i've been able to

1888
01:18:20,709 --> 01:18:18,080
ask

1889
01:18:22,709 --> 01:18:20,719
the first question right so i walk

1890
01:18:24,070 --> 01:18:22,719
around and yeah i'm sure you've seen me

1891
01:18:28,149 --> 01:18:24,080
do this

1892
01:18:32,229 --> 01:18:28,159
but the point is that

1893
01:18:35,830 --> 01:18:32,239
bashar what's going on on stage

1894
01:18:39,390 --> 01:18:35,840
is not daryl i

1895
01:18:42,229 --> 01:18:39,400
i know i i know who daryl is and it's

1896
01:18:42,870 --> 01:18:42,239
mind-blowing there's something going on

1897
01:18:45,830 --> 01:18:42,880
there man

1898
01:18:47,030 --> 01:18:45,840
and it's real it's real it i don't know

1899
01:18:49,110 --> 01:18:47,040
what it is

1900
01:18:51,030 --> 01:18:49,120
i joke with him it's the superman clark

1901
01:18:52,470 --> 01:18:51,040
kent routine he takes off his glasses

1902
01:18:55,189 --> 01:18:52,480
and he becomes bashar

1903
01:18:56,229 --> 01:18:55,199
100 100 it is that kind of

1904
01:18:57,990 --> 01:18:56,239
transformation

1905
01:18:59,270 --> 01:18:58,000
it's mind-blowing mind-blowing what

1906
01:19:02,950 --> 01:18:59,280
you're saying jimmy is

1907
01:19:05,990 --> 01:19:02,960
right how could this he's not acting

1908
01:19:09,510 --> 01:19:06,000
he's not um insane obviously

1909
01:19:13,030 --> 01:19:09,520
perhaps what's really going on

1910
01:19:15,830 --> 01:19:13,040
is what he says is going on

1911
01:19:16,390 --> 01:19:15,840
yeah yeah well if he's acting then he is

1912
01:19:18,070 --> 01:19:16,400
insane

1913
01:19:21,830 --> 01:19:18,080
[Laughter]

1914
01:19:22,390 --> 01:19:21,840
no no no no no no no you know what i'm

1915
01:19:26,310 --> 01:19:22,400
saying

1916
01:19:29,350 --> 01:19:26,320
it's the it is real

1917
01:19:32,870 --> 01:19:29,360
it's tangible and and when you

1918
01:19:36,310 --> 01:19:32,880
when you get the opportunity to to see

1919
01:19:38,229 --> 01:19:36,320
and and hear uh bashar speak for 90

1920
01:19:40,950 --> 01:19:38,239
minutes at a crack

1921
01:19:41,350 --> 01:19:40,960
um it's it's unreal i remember uh one

1922
01:19:43,590 --> 01:19:41,360
year

1923
01:19:45,590 --> 01:19:43,600
alan uh it's not about me it's about you

1924
01:19:48,950 --> 01:19:45,600
but i i've got to share this with you

1925
01:19:49,990 --> 01:19:48,960
i'm listening i i went up to daryl later

1926
01:19:53,590 --> 01:19:50,000
it's a couple hours

1927
01:19:55,750 --> 01:19:53,600
after his presentation and uh and i said

1928
01:19:57,270 --> 01:19:55,760
oh you were there wait a minute wait a

1929
01:19:58,070 --> 01:19:57,280
minute you were sitting next to daryl

1930
01:20:00,870 --> 01:19:58,080
when i came up

1931
01:20:02,870 --> 01:20:00,880
probably was yes yes yes okay and i said

1932
01:20:06,870 --> 01:20:02,880
to daryl i go so man uh

1933
01:20:07,830 --> 01:20:06,880
uh that was amazing your answer to my

1934
01:20:09,030 --> 01:20:07,840
question

1935
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:09,040
and he looked at me and he goes i don't

1936
01:20:11,910 --> 01:20:10,330
know what you're talking about man

1937
01:20:15,750 --> 01:20:11,920
[Laughter]

1938
01:20:18,550 --> 01:20:15,760
he is such a deep channel yes

1939
01:20:20,709 --> 01:20:18,560
daryl who he is as a personality

1940
01:20:23,590 --> 01:20:20,719
disappears if you ever saw the movie

1941
01:20:26,149 --> 01:20:23,600
first contact that daryl

1942
01:20:27,030 --> 01:20:26,159
he said when he actually tried to meet

1943
01:20:30,070 --> 01:20:27,040
bashar he

1944
01:20:32,950 --> 01:20:30,080
felt like his whole essence of

1945
01:20:34,709 --> 01:20:32,960
of sense of self was dissolving and

1946
01:20:36,709 --> 01:20:34,719
actually when i was interviewing

1947
01:20:38,709 --> 01:20:36,719
bashar first i interviewed daryl and

1948
01:20:41,910 --> 01:20:38,719
right there on camera he turns into

1949
01:20:43,990 --> 01:20:41,920
bashar i said hey bashar i feel the

1950
01:20:45,669 --> 01:20:44,000
energy coming off your body it feels

1951
01:20:46,950 --> 01:20:45,679
really good can you increase that

1952
01:20:50,310 --> 01:20:46,960
vibration he goes

1953
01:20:54,229 --> 01:20:50,320
no this will blow out the body so

1954
01:20:57,189 --> 01:20:54,239
i felt it palpably what was going on

1955
01:20:58,950 --> 01:20:57,199
within the quickening of frequency and

1956
01:21:00,229 --> 01:20:58,960
if you stand close to daryl when he's

1957
01:21:02,070 --> 01:21:00,239
channeling you're gonna feel it too

1958
01:21:04,550 --> 01:21:02,080
jimmy there's something going on there

1959
01:21:05,750 --> 01:21:04,560
it's real it's real it's tangible man

1960
01:21:08,470 --> 01:21:05,760
it's tangible

1961
01:21:10,709 --> 01:21:08,480
and the big thing it's useful the

1962
01:21:11,910 --> 01:21:10,719
biggest thing bashar says is follow your

1963
01:21:15,110 --> 01:21:11,920
excitement

1964
01:21:16,870 --> 01:21:15,120
do what you love this is the spiritual

1965
01:21:20,149 --> 01:21:16,880
teaching of all time

1966
01:21:20,870 --> 01:21:20,159
this is why we incarnated to do what we

1967
01:21:24,149 --> 01:21:20,880
love to do

1968
01:21:26,870 --> 01:21:24,159
and give back to the quality of life

1969
01:21:27,350 --> 01:21:26,880
now the other the other right hand turn

1970
01:21:29,270 --> 01:21:27,360
no no

1971
01:21:30,790 --> 01:21:29,280
here's a left-hand turn that you take in

1972
01:21:34,550 --> 01:21:30,800
the book and that is

1973
01:21:37,910 --> 01:21:34,560
of course with uh caroline corey and

1974
01:21:39,590 --> 01:21:37,920
uh all of her movies uh are absolutely

1975
01:21:42,790 --> 01:21:39,600
incredible the last two

1976
01:21:45,910 --> 01:21:42,800
have been quite groundbreaking

1977
01:21:49,910 --> 01:21:45,920
um just uh just incredible movies

1978
01:21:52,550 --> 01:21:49,920
but she is also with her research

1979
01:21:53,189 --> 01:21:52,560
and how she presents it's another leap

1980
01:21:56,070 --> 01:21:53,199
of faith

1981
01:21:56,870 --> 01:21:56,080
isn't it where you have to accept what

1982
01:21:59,830 --> 01:21:56,880
is

1983
01:22:01,430 --> 01:21:59,840
actually going on well you do have to

1984
01:22:03,189 --> 01:22:01,440
accept it but you know what

1985
01:22:05,030 --> 01:22:03,199
why don't we we have to accept what's

1986
01:22:09,430 --> 01:22:05,040
going on right now for all of us

1987
01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:09,440
why is her interfacing with et's

1988
01:22:12,870 --> 01:22:10,850
more um

1989
01:22:14,950 --> 01:22:12,880
[Music]

1990
01:22:17,270 --> 01:22:14,960
credible or incredible than what's

1991
01:22:20,950 --> 01:22:17,280
happening with this is her experience

1992
01:22:22,870 --> 01:22:20,960
she has a greater mind and she's

1993
01:22:23,990 --> 01:22:22,880
merged i think she's one of the

1994
01:22:27,189 --> 01:22:24,000
closestly

1995
01:22:29,590 --> 01:22:27,199
merged e.t humans i know she really has

1996
01:22:32,950 --> 01:22:29,600
a sense of what these beings are about

1997
01:22:36,070 --> 01:22:32,960
i mean daryl channels them but caroline

1998
01:22:38,070 --> 01:22:36,080
has merged us in a way with these

1999
01:22:39,430 --> 01:22:38,080
others that's the sense i get from her

2000
01:22:43,189 --> 01:22:39,440
when i hang out with her

2001
01:22:46,390 --> 01:22:43,199
and and well um i want to uh

2002
01:22:50,229 --> 01:22:46,400
combine caroline with mary because

2003
01:22:53,510 --> 01:22:50,239
mary's been in in in caroline's films

2004
01:22:56,629 --> 01:22:53,520
but it's also the introduction of of

2005
01:22:59,910 --> 01:22:56,639
children and and certainly

2006
01:23:01,990 --> 01:22:59,920
the alien tongue the e.t tongue and and

2007
01:23:04,709 --> 01:23:02,000
languages that are presented

2008
01:23:06,229 --> 01:23:04,719
and the in the in the uh the what's the

2009
01:23:08,790 --> 01:23:06,239
mind mask

2010
01:23:09,350 --> 01:23:08,800
the the the mask what's it called the

2011
01:23:11,990 --> 01:23:09,360
mind

2012
01:23:13,030 --> 01:23:12,000
mask what do you mean the mask that the

2013
01:23:15,350 --> 01:23:13,040
the kids wear

2014
01:23:16,870 --> 01:23:15,360
that they oh to read the blindfold yeah

2015
01:23:19,990 --> 01:23:16,880
yeah there's a name for it

2016
01:23:21,590 --> 01:23:20,000
i have it i have one here but yeah

2017
01:23:23,990 --> 01:23:21,600
kids are reading through their

2018
01:23:26,629 --> 01:23:24,000
blindfolds because their higher sight

2019
01:23:28,070 --> 01:23:26,639
is more accessible than just their

2020
01:23:30,470 --> 01:23:28,080
normal side so

2021
01:23:31,510 --> 01:23:30,480
but getting back to mary talks to these

2022
01:23:34,229 --> 01:23:31,520
younger kids and

2023
01:23:34,790 --> 01:23:34,239
she talks about the messages they come

2024
01:23:37,990 --> 01:23:34,800
in with

2025
01:23:39,830 --> 01:23:38,000
as starseeds and saying it's time for us

2026
01:23:41,910 --> 01:23:39,840
to clean up our planet we're here

2027
01:23:43,110 --> 01:23:41,920
and these kids are here from other star

2028
01:23:45,590 --> 01:23:43,120
systems i mean

2029
01:23:47,110 --> 01:23:45,600
some of these kids their parents are

2030
01:23:48,709 --> 01:23:47,120
freaked out by what they're saying they

2031
01:23:51,350 --> 01:23:48,719
said where do you hear the name

2032
01:23:53,669 --> 01:23:51,360
octorus that is not something we talk

2033
01:23:57,270 --> 01:23:53,679
about at the dinner table and these kids

2034
01:23:57,990 --> 01:23:57,280
come out with these incredible pearls of

2035
01:24:01,350 --> 01:23:58,000
wisdom

2036
01:24:03,750 --> 01:24:01,360
from these other star systems and

2037
01:24:05,189 --> 01:24:03,760
they're waking up the planet to what

2038
01:24:08,390 --> 01:24:05,199
mary calls a new

2039
01:24:12,550 --> 01:24:08,400
humanity so just take that whole

2040
01:24:15,830 --> 01:24:12,560
scope from nick pope to caroline corey

2041
01:24:18,950 --> 01:24:15,840
and it's a kind of gentle

2042
01:24:21,430 --> 01:24:18,960
stepping into the deep end of the pool

2043
01:24:22,870 --> 01:24:21,440
or like you know the the the frogs that

2044
01:24:24,709 --> 01:24:22,880
don't know that the water is being

2045
01:24:27,510 --> 01:24:24,719
turned up when it starts to boil

2046
01:24:29,189 --> 01:24:27,520
that's where i take the reader on this

2047
01:24:31,910 --> 01:24:29,199
journey on this narrative

2048
01:24:33,990 --> 01:24:31,920
from the external to the deepest minds

2049
01:24:37,270 --> 01:24:34,000
of those connected with the et's

2050
01:24:39,430 --> 01:24:37,280
now uh how do you how do you connect the

2051
01:24:42,950 --> 01:24:39,440
dots between

2052
01:24:45,350 --> 01:24:42,960
like travis walton and

2053
01:24:46,390 --> 01:24:45,360
the because we can understand what what

2054
01:24:50,070 --> 01:24:46,400
you know okay

2055
01:24:52,550 --> 01:24:50,080
all right we we can uh grasp

2056
01:24:53,910 --> 01:24:52,560
you know what travis is about but a star

2057
01:25:00,229 --> 01:24:53,920
seed

2058
01:25:03,590 --> 01:25:00,239
is obviously smarter than you and i

2059
01:25:07,669 --> 01:25:03,600
allen combined right right

2060
01:25:09,830 --> 01:25:07,679
saying things that are on another level

2061
01:25:11,590 --> 01:25:09,840
that when i was that age i was still

2062
01:25:14,550 --> 01:25:11,600
playing in mud

2063
01:25:17,270 --> 01:25:14,560
right and and these kids are so

2064
01:25:20,390 --> 01:25:17,280
brilliant and so smart and so connected

2065
01:25:22,470 --> 01:25:20,400
that this is coming from somewhere

2066
01:25:23,830 --> 01:25:22,480
and we have to understand that well

2067
01:25:26,070 --> 01:25:23,840
isn't that evidence

2068
01:25:27,189 --> 01:25:26,080
of the fact that they come out with

2069
01:25:28,709 --> 01:25:27,199
these things oh okay

2070
01:25:31,030 --> 01:25:28,719
i mean you probably have a copy of the

2071
01:25:31,430 --> 01:25:31,040
book there i can read some of this but

2072
01:25:33,990 --> 01:25:31,440
these

2073
01:25:35,590 --> 01:25:34,000
brilliant statements of oneness of

2074
01:25:39,030 --> 01:25:35,600
consciousness

2075
01:25:41,590 --> 01:25:39,040
of divine connection of of of higher

2076
01:25:42,709 --> 01:25:41,600
systems of learning of advanced

2077
01:25:45,189 --> 01:25:42,719
geometries

2078
01:25:47,430 --> 01:25:45,199
and mathematics that five or six year

2079
01:25:50,870 --> 01:25:47,440
olds and science

2080
01:25:53,669 --> 01:25:50,880
anti-gravity formulas teleportation

2081
01:25:55,430 --> 01:25:53,679
where is that coming from if not from

2082
01:25:58,149 --> 01:25:55,440
another level of awareness

2083
01:25:59,910 --> 01:25:58,159
i mean that is proof if you want proof

2084
01:26:00,709 --> 01:25:59,920
for this book that extraterrestrials are

2085
01:26:03,350 --> 01:26:00,719
around

2086
01:26:03,750 --> 01:26:03,360
look at some of these five rules and and

2087
01:26:05,510 --> 01:26:03,760
and

2088
01:26:07,430 --> 01:26:05,520
you just actually you just give a

2089
01:26:08,149 --> 01:26:07,440
two-year-old a cell phone they know how

2090
01:26:11,430 --> 01:26:08,159
to operate

2091
01:26:12,709 --> 01:26:11,440
it better than someone who's 80 or 75 80

2092
01:26:16,310 --> 01:26:12,719
years old there's a

2093
01:26:18,629 --> 01:26:16,320
kind of um evolution to our species and

2094
01:26:20,709 --> 01:26:18,639
we're about to take a big leap and i

2095
01:26:23,830 --> 01:26:20,719
think these star seeds crystal children

2096
01:26:25,750 --> 01:26:23,840
indigos are leading the way into these

2097
01:26:29,590 --> 01:26:25,760
new realities so

2098
01:26:32,070 --> 01:26:29,600
the book connects the dots i feel

2099
01:26:33,189 --> 01:26:32,080
from the abductees people like whitley

2100
01:26:35,270 --> 01:26:33,199
strieber who's

2101
01:26:37,189 --> 01:26:35,280
just making sense of it and trying to

2102
01:26:37,990 --> 01:26:37,199
integrate the trauma because there is

2103
01:26:39,750 --> 01:26:38,000
trauma

2104
01:26:41,830 --> 01:26:39,760
when you meet these beings and you're

2105
01:26:42,870 --> 01:26:41,840
unexpected and you're not expecting to

2106
01:26:45,910 --> 01:26:42,880
encounter these

2107
01:26:49,030 --> 01:26:45,920
levels of of higher consciousness to the

2108
01:26:51,590 --> 01:26:49,040
what i call the contact d that's somehow

2109
01:26:54,149 --> 01:26:51,600
able to integrate these experiences so

2110
01:26:57,030 --> 01:26:54,159
the world itself is going from

2111
01:26:57,669 --> 01:26:57,040
trauma to integration that's the level

2112
01:26:59,990 --> 01:26:57,679
we're at

2113
01:27:01,990 --> 01:27:00,000
now with the government turnover with

2114
01:27:03,270 --> 01:27:02,000
the gov with all this coming out with a

2115
01:27:05,830 --> 01:27:03,280
book like this

2116
01:27:07,270 --> 01:27:05,840
i'm trying really to prepare people for

2117
01:27:09,510 --> 01:27:07,280
the unknown

2118
01:27:10,390 --> 01:27:09,520
and people only project what they know

2119
01:27:12,550 --> 01:27:10,400
of the known

2120
01:27:13,430 --> 01:27:12,560
onto the unknown we are coming into a

2121
01:27:16,390 --> 01:27:13,440
renaissance an

2122
01:27:16,830 --> 01:27:16,400
incredible time of planetary awakening

2123
01:27:19,910 --> 01:27:16,840
and

2124
01:27:20,950 --> 01:27:19,920
civilization bursting on levels we have

2125
01:27:24,310 --> 01:27:20,960
yet to fathom

2126
01:27:27,430 --> 01:27:24,320
it is a good time now

2127
01:27:30,709 --> 01:27:27,440
absolutely it is and this book

2128
01:27:31,910 --> 01:27:30,719
for our community makes perfect sense

2129
01:27:34,070 --> 01:27:31,920
everybody's going to read through it

2130
01:27:35,830 --> 01:27:34,080
they're going to learn uh something that

2131
01:27:38,550 --> 01:27:35,840
they didn't know before

2132
01:27:39,270 --> 01:27:38,560
they know who uh the authors are of

2133
01:27:41,750 --> 01:27:39,280
these

2134
01:27:43,110 --> 01:27:41,760
essays they know who you are but what

2135
01:27:49,270 --> 01:27:43,120
about somebody that

2136
01:27:51,510 --> 01:27:49,280
is just walking in is this ufo 101

2137
01:27:54,149 --> 01:27:51,520
thank you for that question because that

2138
01:27:55,350 --> 01:27:54,159
is exactly why i wanted to start off

2139
01:27:57,910 --> 01:27:55,360
with nick pope

2140
01:27:59,510 --> 01:27:57,920
something very basic it is the

2141
01:28:02,229 --> 01:27:59,520
beginner's guide

2142
01:28:04,070 --> 01:28:02,239
to the phenomena for so for all those

2143
01:28:05,110 --> 01:28:04,080
people in your life who thought you were

2144
01:28:06,950 --> 01:28:05,120
crazy or

2145
01:28:08,790 --> 01:28:06,960
or your mother and father who didn't

2146
01:28:11,990 --> 01:28:08,800
believe a word you said

2147
01:28:14,149 --> 01:28:12,000
this gets us in at the ground level

2148
01:28:16,950 --> 01:28:14,159
this is where we start with

2149
01:28:20,229 --> 01:28:16,960
understanding the phenomena the ufo

2150
01:28:22,790 --> 01:28:20,239
uap situation and we take it to the next

2151
01:28:26,070 --> 01:28:22,800
level of higher consciousness so

2152
01:28:29,590 --> 01:28:26,080
what we thought was unidentified objects

2153
01:28:31,430 --> 01:28:29,600
we now know is a phenomena that's beyond

2154
01:28:33,270 --> 01:28:31,440
our level of comprehension

2155
01:28:35,110 --> 01:28:33,280
yeah yeah you're right it's an

2156
01:28:36,629 --> 01:28:35,120
opportunity for somebody to wave your

2157
01:28:38,790 --> 01:28:36,639
book around and go see

2158
01:28:39,750 --> 01:28:38,800
this is what i've been on about right

2159
01:28:41,350 --> 01:28:39,760
exactly

2160
01:28:43,030 --> 01:28:41,360
this is it right so you didn't believe

2161
01:28:44,229 --> 01:28:43,040
you give it to your family who thought

2162
01:28:47,669 --> 01:28:44,239
you were crazy

2163
01:28:49,830 --> 01:28:47,679
this is the 101 and like me and you

2164
01:28:51,510 --> 01:28:49,840
there's stuff to i learned stuff having

2165
01:28:54,870 --> 01:28:51,520
these people write these essays like

2166
01:28:57,030 --> 01:28:54,880
wow that was great that john mack essay

2167
01:28:58,149 --> 01:28:57,040
woke me up to other ways of thinking

2168
01:29:01,990 --> 01:28:58,159
about the phenomena

2169
01:29:04,310 --> 01:29:02,000
linda whitley these people have thought

2170
01:29:05,910 --> 01:29:04,320
about this for a long time and have

2171
01:29:07,990 --> 01:29:05,920
great insights and

2172
01:29:09,669 --> 01:29:08,000
it was a pleasure for me to put this

2173
01:29:12,070 --> 01:29:09,679
together i had nothing else to do except

2174
01:29:13,590 --> 01:29:12,080
by sitting in my apartment for a year so

2175
01:29:15,669 --> 01:29:13,600
this was fine

2176
01:29:17,669 --> 01:29:15,679
well done man let's take our break right

2177
01:29:19,030 --> 01:29:17,679
here this is fade to black i'm your host

2178
01:29:19,910 --> 01:29:19,040
jimmy church our guest tonight allen

2179
01:29:23,110 --> 01:29:19,920
seinfeld

2180
01:29:24,870 --> 01:29:23,120
when we come back after the break we're

2181
01:29:27,030 --> 01:29:24,880
going to talk about

2182
01:29:28,390 --> 01:29:27,040
alan that's right this is fade to black

2183
01:29:37,930 --> 01:29:28,400
i'm yours to be church stay with us

2184
01:29:48,229 --> 01:29:37,940
we'll be right back

2185
01:29:54,470 --> 01:29:51,430
way out here we listen to jimmy church

2186
01:29:56,310 --> 01:29:54,480
you're listening to fade to black

2187
01:29:57,510 --> 01:29:56,320
always on the edge of the hottest

2188
01:30:04,830 --> 01:29:57,520
alternative talk

2189
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:16,310
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2190
01:30:20,470 --> 01:30:18,470
do you want to be an official fate or

2191
01:30:22,470 --> 01:30:20,480
not of course you do

2192
01:30:25,550 --> 01:30:22,480
this is jimmy church of fade to black

2193
01:30:27,750 --> 01:30:25,560
just go to our membership section at

2194
01:30:29,990 --> 01:30:27,760
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2195
01:30:31,830 --> 01:30:30,000
this is jimmy church and i'll be at the

2196
01:30:35,030 --> 01:30:31,840
ufo megacon this june

2197
01:30:35,830 --> 01:30:35,040
6th through the 12th 2021 in laughlin

2198
01:30:39,030 --> 01:30:35,840
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2199
01:30:41,510 --> 01:30:39,040
the laughlin ufo megacon is unique it's

2200
01:30:44,790 --> 01:30:41,520
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2201
01:30:46,790 --> 01:30:44,800
it's unlike all other ufo conferences

2202
01:30:49,430 --> 01:30:46,800
the laughlin ufo mega conference

2203
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specializes in bringing you new people

2204
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2205
01:30:56,629 --> 01:30:54,239
all of this is offered at prices so low

2206
01:30:59,830 --> 01:30:56,639
you can actually afford to be there

2207
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2208
01:31:05,990 --> 01:31:03,120
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2209
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2210
01:31:08,629 --> 01:31:08,000
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2211
01:31:10,790 --> 01:31:08,639
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2212
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2213
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2214
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2215
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2216
01:31:21,110 --> 01:31:19,840
register now the only thing keeping you

2217
01:31:28,830 --> 01:31:21,120
from being with all of us

2218
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:32,550
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2219
01:31:36,390 --> 01:31:34,550
fader knots when you think about the

2220
01:31:38,229 --> 01:31:36,400
future of our country and where we're

2221
01:31:39,189 --> 01:31:38,239
headed do you wonder about the food

2222
01:31:43,350 --> 01:31:39,199
supply

2223
01:31:45,510 --> 01:31:43,360
chain could be disastrous

2224
01:31:47,750 --> 01:31:45,520
and they usually occur with little

2225
01:31:48,790 --> 01:31:47,760
warning that's why the smartest thing

2226
01:31:51,990 --> 01:31:48,800
you can do today

2227
01:31:54,310 --> 01:31:52,000
is to stockpile emergency food water

2228
01:31:55,430 --> 01:31:54,320
and other essentials i personally

2229
01:31:57,590 --> 01:31:55,440
recommend my

2230
01:32:00,070 --> 01:31:57,600
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i do our guest tonight alan steinfeld

2307
01:35:47,270 --> 01:35:43,920
now

2308
01:35:50,149 --> 01:35:47,280
alan i want to talk about you

2309
01:35:51,590 --> 01:35:50,159
okay is that okay are you uncomfortable

2310
01:35:54,629 --> 01:35:51,600
are you uncomfortable

2311
01:35:56,310 --> 01:35:54,639
no no no jimmy you can know my darkest

2312
01:35:59,350 --> 01:35:56,320
deepest secrets

2313
01:35:59,669 --> 01:35:59,360
okay what was the last song you listened

2314
01:36:04,229 --> 01:35:59,679
to

2315
01:36:09,030 --> 01:36:04,239
was

2316
01:36:12,629 --> 01:36:09,040
after the gold rush neil young oh

2317
01:36:14,950 --> 01:36:12,639
well played my man yes well

2318
01:36:18,070 --> 01:36:14,960
i i kind of picture you uh with an

2319
01:36:20,149 --> 01:36:18,080
acoustic guitar singing in a folk band

2320
01:36:21,430 --> 01:36:20,159
in in the warehouse district in uh

2321
01:36:23,830 --> 01:36:21,440
manhattan

2322
01:36:25,430 --> 01:36:23,840
yeah that's me you probably saw me there

2323
01:36:27,669 --> 01:36:25,440
right yes

2324
01:36:28,470 --> 01:36:27,679
in a dream all in a dream the loading

2325
01:36:30,550 --> 01:36:28,480
had begun

2326
01:36:31,669 --> 01:36:30,560
you look like a rock star though you

2327
01:36:33,510 --> 01:36:31,679
know you got that

2328
01:36:35,270 --> 01:36:33,520
you got that look it was really funny i

2329
01:36:38,629 --> 01:36:35,280
want to tell everybody today

2330
01:36:39,510 --> 01:36:38,639
uh alan and i connected in video and he

2331
01:36:45,910 --> 01:36:39,520
had the hair

2332
01:36:46,390 --> 01:36:45,920
out alan all right i want to talk about

2333
01:36:50,870 --> 01:36:46,400
you

2334
01:36:54,310 --> 01:36:53,669
how do i how do i say okay is it fair to

2335
01:36:58,629 --> 01:36:54,320
say

2336
01:37:00,550 --> 01:36:58,639
you had an abduction experience in 1987.

2337
01:37:01,669 --> 01:37:00,560
i mean you know you probably talked to

2338
01:37:03,830 --> 01:37:01,679
thousands of people

2339
01:37:04,950 --> 01:37:03,840
like this uh with these experiences

2340
01:37:08,390 --> 01:37:04,960
right i have

2341
01:37:10,470 --> 01:37:08,400
yes so mine is not that

2342
01:37:11,990 --> 01:37:10,480
unusual i mean i'll talk to about it

2343
01:37:14,709 --> 01:37:12,000
whatever you want to know but

2344
01:37:15,669 --> 01:37:14,719
what it did for me is make me obsessed

2345
01:37:18,070 --> 01:37:15,679
with the subject

2346
01:37:20,070 --> 01:37:18,080
this contact this thing that happened in

2347
01:37:22,070 --> 01:37:20,080
the summer of 87 i'll just

2348
01:37:23,990 --> 01:37:22,080
describe a little bit driving

2349
01:37:25,830 --> 01:37:24,000
cross-country i was out in oregon

2350
01:37:27,109 --> 01:37:25,840
at the country fair there people know

2351
01:37:29,430 --> 01:37:27,119
that it was driving back

2352
01:37:30,310 --> 01:37:29,440
east it was the year of the harmonic

2353
01:37:33,270 --> 01:37:30,320
convergence

2354
01:37:35,590 --> 01:37:33,280
if you remember that the first one i was

2355
01:37:37,430 --> 01:37:35,600
checking out of sites around the country

2356
01:37:39,510 --> 01:37:37,440
to see where i wanted to be

2357
01:37:41,510 --> 01:37:39,520
when the whole world changed of course

2358
01:37:41,910 --> 01:37:41,520
that one really happened but everyone

2359
01:37:45,270 --> 01:37:41,920
was

2360
01:37:47,590 --> 01:37:45,280
spiritual holiday

2361
01:37:49,350 --> 01:37:47,600
the harmonic convergence august 16th and

2362
01:37:51,189 --> 01:37:49,360
17th but i was driving around

2363
01:37:52,390 --> 01:37:51,199
cross country in july that was just

2364
01:37:54,870 --> 01:37:52,400
looking where i want to be

2365
01:37:56,149 --> 01:37:54,880
but i met this really beautiful woman

2366
01:37:58,950 --> 01:37:56,159
this you know

2367
01:38:00,550 --> 01:37:58,960
um i don't i don't know what do you mean

2368
01:38:03,430 --> 01:38:00,560
as you know

2369
01:38:06,390 --> 01:38:03,440
oh as i know you met a beautiful okay so

2370
01:38:09,350 --> 01:38:06,400
this is 35 years ago how old were you

2371
01:38:11,830 --> 01:38:09,360
i was should i give it away i think 35

2372
01:38:16,310 --> 01:38:11,840
years in 19 i was about

2373
01:38:20,149 --> 01:38:16,320
30 something okay fair enough

2374
01:38:23,109 --> 01:38:20,159
early 30s so um but this was really

2375
01:38:25,510 --> 01:38:23,119
uh a cosmic relay and this was like you

2376
01:38:26,790 --> 01:38:25,520
know we had a bond immediately me and

2377
01:38:29,750 --> 01:38:26,800
this woman

2378
01:38:31,270 --> 01:38:29,760
and um some people you know the love

2379
01:38:33,350 --> 01:38:31,280
bites things that um

2380
01:38:34,950 --> 01:38:33,360
is described by eve locker and she says

2381
01:38:35,910 --> 01:38:34,960
some people are just set up for a

2382
01:38:38,950 --> 01:38:35,920
special

2383
01:38:40,229 --> 01:38:38,960
um moment of meeting by the aliens i

2384
01:38:41,830 --> 01:38:40,239
don't know if that's true but we were

2385
01:38:44,629 --> 01:38:41,840
driving cross country

2386
01:38:46,229 --> 01:38:44,639
from oregon back east along route 80. we

2387
01:38:49,350 --> 01:38:46,239
pulled off the road

2388
01:38:51,189 --> 01:38:49,360
it was around north platte western

2389
01:38:54,310 --> 01:38:51,199
nebraska and there was a sign

2390
01:38:56,390 --> 01:38:54,320
said enter at your own risk which was

2391
01:38:57,990 --> 01:38:56,400
because of the irrigation ditches but we

2392
01:39:00,950 --> 01:38:58,000
were just so tired from driving

2393
01:39:03,189 --> 01:39:00,960
that we just pulled off and this little

2394
01:39:06,229 --> 01:39:03,199
this was like an irrigation area

2395
01:39:08,950 --> 01:39:06,239
whatever and we just passed out but we

2396
01:39:09,669 --> 01:39:08,960
we felt like we were frozen in suspended

2397
01:39:12,390 --> 01:39:09,679
animation

2398
01:39:12,870 --> 01:39:12,400
all through the night we actually woke

2399
01:39:15,030 --> 01:39:12,880
up

2400
01:39:17,750 --> 01:39:15,040
in the same position we went to sleep

2401
01:39:20,229 --> 01:39:17,760
and who even remembers that

2402
01:39:21,990 --> 01:39:20,239
so you know we felt like it was

2403
01:39:23,430 --> 01:39:22,000
something a little creepy about the

2404
01:39:26,550 --> 01:39:23,440
place we just took off

2405
01:39:29,189 --> 01:39:26,560
i didn't really suspect anything i get

2406
01:39:31,350 --> 01:39:29,199
back to new york and it's summertime

2407
01:39:34,310 --> 01:39:31,360
i'm at the pool and my mother says to me

2408
01:39:37,350 --> 01:39:34,320
what's that on the back of your knee

2409
01:39:39,910 --> 01:39:37,360
and i and i look and this is four prong

2410
01:39:41,590 --> 01:39:39,920
puncture mark on the back of my knee i

2411
01:39:42,229 --> 01:39:41,600
mean who looks at the back of their knee

2412
01:39:48,390 --> 01:39:42,239
and i

2413
01:39:49,350 --> 01:39:48,400
started at that time coincidentally or

2414
01:39:51,590 --> 01:39:49,360
not

2415
01:39:53,510 --> 01:39:51,600
i was doing a video for a dancer this

2416
01:39:56,229 --> 01:39:53,520
woman christine who was

2417
01:39:56,950 --> 01:39:56,239
choreographing her abduction videos her

2418
01:40:00,149 --> 01:39:56,960
abduction

2419
01:40:01,990 --> 01:40:00,159
just the camera person

2420
01:40:04,629 --> 01:40:02,000
and i said hey christine have you ever

2421
01:40:06,790 --> 01:40:04,639
seen a mark like this and she goes yes

2422
01:40:08,070 --> 01:40:06,800
that's an abduction mark and immediately

2423
01:40:10,870 --> 01:40:08,080
i started to

2424
01:40:12,790 --> 01:40:10,880
sort of panic and say no couldn't be and

2425
01:40:16,149 --> 01:40:12,800
then i remembered that night

2426
01:40:18,870 --> 01:40:16,159
and um i met bud

2427
01:40:20,550 --> 01:40:18,880
not too long after and bud was really

2428
01:40:22,390 --> 01:40:20,560
the godfather of this

2429
01:40:24,470 --> 01:40:22,400
of the whole abduction experience bud

2430
01:40:27,109 --> 01:40:24,480
hopkins he turned whitley on to it

2431
01:40:28,870 --> 01:40:27,119
he turned uh john mack onto it he led

2432
01:40:31,030 --> 01:40:28,880
these groups in new york and

2433
01:40:32,310 --> 01:40:31,040
i became part of the intruder foundation

2434
01:40:34,790 --> 01:40:32,320
but um

2435
01:40:35,590 --> 01:40:34,800
i was still not sure my my girlfriend

2436
01:40:37,910 --> 01:40:35,600
jane was

2437
01:40:39,030 --> 01:40:37,920
regressed and she said yep we were taken

2438
01:40:41,189 --> 01:40:39,040
aboard and we

2439
01:40:42,709 --> 01:40:41,199
had this connection between her ankle

2440
01:40:43,350 --> 01:40:42,719
and my knee i don't know about that but

2441
01:40:46,390 --> 01:40:43,360
it took me

2442
01:40:50,070 --> 01:40:46,400
30 years to finally get

2443
01:40:52,310 --> 01:40:50,080
a regression back to that moment because

2444
01:40:53,510 --> 01:40:52,320
even though i love the subject and it's

2445
01:40:55,830 --> 01:40:53,520
my obsession

2446
01:40:57,750 --> 01:40:55,840
i was still and this shows you the split

2447
01:40:59,430 --> 01:40:57,760
in my mind and lots of people

2448
01:41:01,189 --> 01:40:59,440
i was still a little freaked out that it

2449
01:41:03,270 --> 01:41:01,199
had happened to me

2450
01:41:04,629 --> 01:41:03,280
you know it's great when i interview

2451
01:41:05,750 --> 01:41:04,639
people like whitley and say what's

2452
01:41:09,030 --> 01:41:05,760
happened to you but when

2453
01:41:10,870 --> 01:41:09,040
i when it becomes real

2454
01:41:12,149 --> 01:41:10,880
when you see the mark on your leg and

2455
01:41:15,109 --> 01:41:12,159
you realize that

2456
01:41:17,109 --> 01:41:15,119
you're one of them like yeah i had this

2457
01:41:18,310 --> 01:41:17,119
happen and i didn't really know what

2458
01:41:20,870 --> 01:41:18,320
went on

2459
01:41:21,430 --> 01:41:20,880
and i was a little freaked out to get uh

2460
01:41:24,870 --> 01:41:21,440
regress

2461
01:41:27,189 --> 01:41:24,880
but eventually i did and it was not as

2462
01:41:29,350 --> 01:41:27,199
weird as i thought it would be you know

2463
01:41:29,669 --> 01:41:29,360
what made me get the regression was i

2464
01:41:34,390 --> 01:41:29,679
was

2465
01:41:35,910 --> 01:41:34,400
ufo disclosure stephen bassett's thing

2466
01:41:39,270 --> 01:41:35,920
in 2014.

2467
01:41:42,470 --> 01:41:39,280
i talked to james pettiston from the um

2468
01:41:43,830 --> 01:41:42,480
what is it yes right

2469
01:41:46,070 --> 01:41:43,840
and i i had a little private

2470
01:41:46,950 --> 01:41:46,080
conversation with peniston and he said

2471
01:41:49,990 --> 01:41:46,960
to me

2472
01:41:50,470 --> 01:41:50,000
he's been taking tranquil or sleeping

2473
01:41:53,590 --> 01:41:50,480
pills

2474
01:41:55,669 --> 01:41:53,600
every night since 1980 since he had that

2475
01:41:58,629 --> 01:41:55,679
event that's how freaked out

2476
01:42:00,390 --> 01:41:58,639
he was about touching that craft and

2477
01:42:01,830 --> 01:42:00,400
coming into contact with

2478
01:42:04,149 --> 01:42:01,840
with him so there was something about

2479
01:42:07,350 --> 01:42:04,159
that conversation i said wow this guy

2480
01:42:08,950 --> 01:42:07,360
since 1980 hasn't been able to deal with

2481
01:42:13,189 --> 01:42:08,960
this i'm gonna see

2482
01:42:14,870 --> 01:42:13,199
so that sparked my um

2483
01:42:16,550 --> 01:42:14,880
drive to see okay i'm going to get

2484
01:42:18,310 --> 01:42:16,560
regress and i got regressed by this guy

2485
01:42:21,189 --> 01:42:18,320
dan in new york he wasn't

2486
01:42:22,629 --> 01:42:21,199
uh necessarily a ufo regressionist it

2487
01:42:25,030 --> 01:42:22,639
probably would have been deeper with

2488
01:42:26,950 --> 01:42:25,040
mary rodwell or barbara lamb but i did

2489
01:42:27,990 --> 01:42:26,960
get back to the place where i saw these

2490
01:42:30,870 --> 01:42:28,000
beings

2491
01:42:32,390 --> 01:42:30,880
left me and my girlfriend out of the van

2492
01:42:34,149 --> 01:42:32,400
and one more

2493
01:42:36,310 --> 01:42:34,159
thing i want to say about regressions

2494
01:42:38,229 --> 01:42:36,320
you do not remember at least

2495
01:42:40,310 --> 01:42:38,239
in the way you remember what happened to

2496
01:42:42,790 --> 01:42:40,320
you yesterday there's another

2497
01:42:43,990 --> 01:42:42,800
level of memory where you're not making

2498
01:42:46,470 --> 01:42:44,000
enough but you're also

2499
01:42:47,830 --> 01:42:46,480
not quite remembering it in the same way

2500
01:42:50,390 --> 01:42:47,840
but these images

2501
01:42:50,870 --> 01:42:50,400
are coming into your mind so because

2502
01:42:52,790 --> 01:42:50,880
you're

2503
01:42:55,109 --> 01:42:52,800
i wasn't conscious people are not

2504
01:42:57,189 --> 01:42:55,119
conscious to begin with

2505
01:42:59,189 --> 01:42:57,199
so you're not remembering anything that

2506
01:42:59,430 --> 01:42:59,199
happened consciously you're remembering

2507
01:43:01,990 --> 01:42:59,440
an

2508
01:43:03,830 --> 01:43:02,000
aspect of your mind that is still

2509
01:43:06,790 --> 01:43:03,840
subconscious and a good hypno

2510
01:43:07,430 --> 01:43:06,800
therapist will get you to those places

2511
01:43:11,750 --> 01:43:07,440
where

2512
01:43:13,669 --> 01:43:11,760
feel like you're making it up but you

2513
01:43:17,030 --> 01:43:13,679
know you're not because

2514
01:43:18,950 --> 01:43:17,040
something's coming up in your awareness

2515
01:43:20,070 --> 01:43:18,960
and that's that's so that's heavy that's

2516
01:43:22,629 --> 01:43:20,080
a you just

2517
01:43:24,629 --> 01:43:22,639
you just took me into the heavy spot i

2518
01:43:26,510 --> 01:43:24,639
mean that's a heavy thought

2519
01:43:27,669 --> 01:43:26,520
yeah so your subcon you're

2520
01:43:30,709 --> 01:43:27,679
subconsciously

2521
01:43:32,149 --> 01:43:30,719
recalling an event that was already

2522
01:43:36,470 --> 01:43:32,159
subconscious

2523
01:43:39,030 --> 01:43:36,480
right right exactly that's heavy so

2524
01:43:39,990 --> 01:43:39,040
it's heavy because it's you know what

2525
01:43:43,830 --> 01:43:40,000
trauma is

2526
01:43:45,750 --> 01:43:43,840
conscious waking state so people have

2527
01:43:46,390 --> 01:43:45,760
like normal trauma something happens to

2528
01:43:48,790 --> 01:43:46,400
them

2529
01:43:51,270 --> 01:43:48,800
whatever and they disconnect from

2530
01:43:53,350 --> 01:43:51,280
reality and there's another

2531
01:43:55,350 --> 01:43:53,360
mechanism that sort of automatic that

2532
01:43:55,830 --> 01:43:55,360
takes over and that sort of functions in

2533
01:43:57,350 --> 01:43:55,840
this

2534
01:43:59,590 --> 01:43:57,360
other world until you can come out of

2535
01:44:01,669 --> 01:43:59,600
the trauma a good trauma coach will

2536
01:44:03,510 --> 01:44:01,679
connect you back there but there's

2537
01:44:06,470 --> 01:44:03,520
always a gap

2538
01:44:07,350 --> 01:44:06,480
in the personal awareness is there's a

2539
01:44:10,950 --> 01:44:07,360
book out

2540
01:44:11,990 --> 01:44:10,960
called um i think uh literature in the

2541
01:44:14,229 --> 01:44:12,000
ashes where

2542
01:44:15,270 --> 01:44:14,239
where they talk about how to write about

2543
01:44:18,310 --> 01:44:15,280
these things so

2544
01:44:20,790 --> 01:44:18,320
it is heavy because um

2545
01:44:22,629 --> 01:44:20,800
i i don't i people talk about past lives

2546
01:44:26,310 --> 01:44:22,639
and all that it's a similar thing but

2547
01:44:28,790 --> 01:44:26,320
this is more palpable to me

2548
01:44:30,310 --> 01:44:28,800
than a past life recall and and that's a

2549
01:44:33,030 --> 01:44:30,320
whole other thing so

2550
01:44:33,590 --> 01:44:33,040
well well let me let me ask you alan if

2551
01:44:37,350 --> 01:44:33,600
i can

2552
01:44:40,709 --> 01:44:40,070
you're hanging out with the a team uh 20

2553
01:44:43,830 --> 01:44:40,719
years ago

2554
01:44:46,550 --> 01:44:43,840
25 years you know bud and john mack

2555
01:44:47,350 --> 01:44:46,560
what did they have to say and why didn't

2556
01:44:50,550 --> 01:44:47,360
you go

2557
01:44:53,669 --> 01:44:50,560
through a session with them

2558
01:44:56,709 --> 01:44:53,679
well i was still like i said too

2559
01:44:58,310 --> 01:44:56,719
freaked out i was fascinated obsessed i

2560
01:44:58,709 --> 01:44:58,320
wanted to be around these guys i wanted

2561
01:45:01,189 --> 01:44:58,719
to hear

2562
01:45:02,229 --> 01:45:01,199
everything they had to say but i didn't

2563
01:45:04,390 --> 01:45:02,239
want to go

2564
01:45:05,990 --> 01:45:04,400
deep into because i was still

2565
01:45:09,189 --> 01:45:06,000
traumatized that's why

2566
01:45:10,149 --> 01:45:09,199
i still had yet to integrate the

2567
01:45:13,350 --> 01:45:10,159
experience

2568
01:45:15,189 --> 01:45:13,360
into my subconscious conscious mind

2569
01:45:16,470 --> 01:45:15,199
so that's why i talked to whitley like

2570
01:45:19,430 --> 01:45:16,480
here's someone who's

2571
01:45:20,790 --> 01:45:19,440
really been able to deal with that in a

2572
01:45:23,830 --> 01:45:20,800
pretty conscious level

2573
01:45:26,470 --> 01:45:23,840
so yeah i was around these 18 people but

2574
01:45:27,350 --> 01:45:26,480
i was not ready for it i wanted to know

2575
01:45:29,669 --> 01:45:27,360
so it's like

2576
01:45:31,189 --> 01:45:29,679
it's strange there's a split in the

2577
01:45:32,709 --> 01:45:31,199
personality i don't mean to say i'm a

2578
01:45:34,950 --> 01:45:32,719
split personality but

2579
01:45:36,229 --> 01:45:34,960
there's a part where and there's a part

2580
01:45:38,790 --> 01:45:36,239
where nightmare

2581
01:45:40,629 --> 01:45:38,800
people who have been traumatized they

2582
01:45:41,590 --> 01:45:40,639
they have flashbacks because they want

2583
01:45:43,709 --> 01:45:41,600
to remember it and

2584
01:45:45,030 --> 01:45:43,719
another part of them pushes it away and

2585
01:45:47,830 --> 01:45:45,040
disassociates

2586
01:45:49,750 --> 01:45:47,840
and that's sort of a typical trauma for

2587
01:45:50,790 --> 01:45:49,760
anyone who's had any sort of like you

2588
01:45:53,990 --> 01:45:50,800
know

2589
01:45:55,430 --> 01:45:54,000
circumstance not just contact and it's

2590
01:45:57,430 --> 01:45:55,440
not always traumatic of course that's

2591
01:45:57,990 --> 01:45:57,440
why i talk about the contactees they are

2592
01:46:00,629 --> 01:45:58,000
not having

2593
01:46:02,070 --> 01:46:00,639
trauma when they are meeting these ets

2594
01:46:03,109 --> 01:46:02,080
and i don't think the trauma is

2595
01:46:07,109 --> 01:46:03,119
happening as much

2596
01:46:10,149 --> 01:46:07,119
now as it did in the 80s and 90s i think

2597
01:46:13,350 --> 01:46:10,159
we as a human species are a lot more

2598
01:46:16,950 --> 01:46:13,360
integrated so if you see an et out there

2599
01:46:19,990 --> 01:46:16,960
you might be saying oh okay you don't

2600
01:46:21,750 --> 01:46:20,000
freak out because i wasn't prepared

2601
01:46:23,109 --> 01:46:21,760
that's sort of why i wrote this book to

2602
01:46:24,950 --> 01:46:23,119
prepare people for the

2603
01:46:26,550 --> 01:46:24,960
extraterrestrial the new realities of

2604
01:46:28,790 --> 01:46:26,560
extraterrestrial existence

2605
01:46:30,790 --> 01:46:28,800
because you know jimmy it really is a

2606
01:46:32,149 --> 01:46:30,800
new reality when you're confronted with

2607
01:46:35,189 --> 01:46:32,159
these beings

2608
01:46:37,910 --> 01:46:35,199
your consciousness is shifting it's like

2609
01:46:39,189 --> 01:46:37,920
the world is turned on its side and

2610
01:46:41,750 --> 01:46:39,199
unless you can stay

2611
01:46:43,590 --> 01:46:41,760
lucid enough this is my experience then

2612
01:46:46,950 --> 01:46:43,600
you completely go out

2613
01:46:49,030 --> 01:46:46,960
so the practice is to stay aware

2614
01:46:50,870 --> 01:46:49,040
and altered states of consciousness

2615
01:46:53,990 --> 01:46:50,880
because these beings do not

2616
01:46:56,709 --> 01:46:54,000
exist my feeling in this world

2617
01:46:58,629 --> 01:46:56,719
there but so they come they're not of

2618
01:46:59,189 --> 01:46:58,639
this world they're at a slightly

2619
01:47:02,790 --> 01:46:59,199
different

2620
01:47:05,430 --> 01:47:02,800
vibratory rate and their conscious field

2621
01:47:06,629 --> 01:47:05,440
distorts our awareness that's so when

2622
01:47:09,350 --> 01:47:06,639
you meet them

2623
01:47:10,470 --> 01:47:09,360
it's like you're drunk or high or or

2624
01:47:12,470 --> 01:47:10,480
turn or

2625
01:47:13,910 --> 01:47:12,480
i can't describe it but it's like a

2626
01:47:15,430 --> 01:47:13,920
dream state takes over

2627
01:47:17,750 --> 01:47:15,440
if they were to appear in front of the

2628
01:47:19,830 --> 01:47:17,760
room with you right now

2629
01:47:21,270 --> 01:47:19,840
you might not freak out but the world

2630
01:47:23,510 --> 01:47:21,280
would be distorted

2631
01:47:24,470 --> 01:47:23,520
and if you look at the atip documents

2632
01:47:27,270 --> 01:47:24,480
that were

2633
01:47:27,830 --> 01:47:27,280
leaked out by christopher mellon he says

2634
01:47:31,030 --> 01:47:27,840
there's

2635
01:47:33,350 --> 01:47:31,040
a cognitive distortion in the field of

2636
01:47:34,709 --> 01:47:33,360
human beings when they see ufos and

2637
01:47:36,790 --> 01:47:34,719
well they don't say immediate et's but

2638
01:47:38,550 --> 01:47:36,800
they talk about cognitive distortions

2639
01:47:42,070 --> 01:47:38,560
it's in the a-tip documents

2640
01:47:42,790 --> 01:47:42,080
well i i hear you know i i understand

2641
01:47:45,270 --> 01:47:42,800
the shock

2642
01:47:47,750 --> 01:47:45,280
part because let me tell you something

2643
01:47:51,030 --> 01:47:47,760
bud hopkins was a serious dude

2644
01:47:53,270 --> 01:47:51,040
cool guy but a serious guy and a bud

2645
01:47:55,510 --> 01:47:53,280
hopkins looks into my eyes and said yeah

2646
01:47:59,189 --> 01:47:55,520
i know what that is you were abducted

2647
01:48:00,790 --> 01:47:59,199
dude that's that's something i don't

2648
01:48:03,590 --> 01:48:00,800
know if i'd be prepared for

2649
01:48:04,070 --> 01:48:03,600
i mean that's heavy it took me 30 years

2650
01:48:07,590 --> 01:48:04,080
yeah yeah

2651
01:48:09,590 --> 01:48:07,600
economically um okay let's uh let's go

2652
01:48:12,870 --> 01:48:09,600
back to dan for a second

2653
01:48:14,870 --> 01:48:12,880
um uh what

2654
01:48:16,950 --> 01:48:14,880
obviously probably most of this was

2655
01:48:19,510 --> 01:48:16,960
completely new to you and i'm sure

2656
01:48:19,990 --> 01:48:19,520
you went back and reviewed everything

2657
01:48:23,510 --> 01:48:20,000
but

2658
01:48:25,270 --> 01:48:23,520
ship and

2659
01:48:26,629 --> 01:48:25,280
did you go through some of the normal

2660
01:48:29,669 --> 01:48:26,639
things what what

2661
01:48:31,750 --> 01:48:29,679
what happened well i have to say

2662
01:48:33,510 --> 01:48:31,760
there was this kind of heightened sense

2663
01:48:36,149 --> 01:48:33,520
of awareness there was a kind of

2664
01:48:37,189 --> 01:48:36,159
electrical feeling between me and my

2665
01:48:40,229 --> 01:48:37,199
girlfriend what

2666
01:48:41,430 --> 01:48:40,239
happened was the i have to say our the

2667
01:48:45,109 --> 01:48:41,440
sexual

2668
01:48:47,750 --> 01:48:45,119
energy was really electric after that

2669
01:48:49,430 --> 01:48:47,760
abduction there's something happened to

2670
01:48:52,550 --> 01:48:49,440
us that just

2671
01:48:54,950 --> 01:48:52,560
lit us both on fire i i i don't know

2672
01:48:57,830 --> 01:48:54,960
what that was but okay

2673
01:48:59,669 --> 01:48:57,840
uh this is a family show alan but i

2674
01:48:59,990 --> 01:48:59,679
would love to talk to you about this off

2675
01:49:03,350 --> 01:49:00,000
of the

2676
01:49:06,870 --> 01:49:03,360
air okay so uh but but continue

2677
01:49:10,149 --> 01:49:06,880
no no so something happens with these

2678
01:49:13,669 --> 01:49:10,159
ets that are at a higher rate

2679
01:49:14,149 --> 01:49:13,679
of vibration and and so uh what was the

2680
01:49:17,830 --> 01:49:14,159
question

2681
01:49:21,510 --> 01:49:17,840
so how did i deal with that yeah i mean

2682
01:49:24,709 --> 01:49:21,520
were you uh you said that you were

2683
01:49:26,070 --> 01:49:24,719
uh uh did you say you were taken out of

2684
01:49:29,270 --> 01:49:26,080
the van

2685
01:49:31,270 --> 01:49:29,280
right so in the regression uh i i

2686
01:49:33,109 --> 01:49:31,280
and this didn't happen in the conscious

2687
01:49:34,709 --> 01:49:33,119
life when we woke up in the mornings

2688
01:49:35,510 --> 01:49:34,719
like something weird happened let's get

2689
01:49:38,229 --> 01:49:35,520
out of here

2690
01:49:40,550 --> 01:49:38,239
but in the regression i see the light

2691
01:49:43,030 --> 01:49:40,560
coming through the back of the van and i

2692
01:49:43,750 --> 01:49:43,040
and this is what i see in this and this

2693
01:49:47,189 --> 01:49:43,760
sort of

2694
01:49:49,189 --> 01:49:47,199
i don't see creatures with eyes or noses

2695
01:49:51,430 --> 01:49:49,199
i see a big head

2696
01:49:52,950 --> 01:49:51,440
and it doesn't look like they have any

2697
01:49:55,589 --> 01:49:52,960
features

2698
01:49:56,149 --> 01:49:55,599
on their face there's one being who's

2699
01:49:58,229 --> 01:49:56,159
little

2700
01:49:59,510 --> 01:49:58,239
taller than the rest it seems like and

2701
01:50:02,470 --> 01:49:59,520
he's a little

2702
01:50:03,910 --> 01:50:02,480
friendlier or i feel more connected to

2703
01:50:07,189 --> 01:50:03,920
that being

2704
01:50:09,350 --> 01:50:07,199
and then we i i guess i mean i need to

2705
01:50:11,750 --> 01:50:09,360
go back to some refresher regression but

2706
01:50:15,350 --> 01:50:11,760
we seem like we're floated on

2707
01:50:17,669 --> 01:50:15,360
and i don't remember them

2708
01:50:19,030 --> 01:50:17,679
taking anything but i will say and this

2709
01:50:22,790 --> 01:50:19,040
is in my book

2710
01:50:25,830 --> 01:50:22,800
they did take some genetic information

2711
01:50:27,510 --> 01:50:25,840
and in uh a few months after that trip i

2712
01:50:29,270 --> 01:50:27,520
was woken up in the middle of the night

2713
01:50:32,709 --> 01:50:29,280
or it was in a dream where

2714
01:50:34,870 --> 01:50:32,719
in my hands was given a little creature

2715
01:50:36,870 --> 01:50:34,880
that uh looked like a deer with big

2716
01:50:38,229 --> 01:50:36,880
black eyes this isn't a dream set i

2717
01:50:39,189 --> 01:50:38,239
can't say it happened in this level of

2718
01:50:41,750 --> 01:50:39,199
reality and

2719
01:50:42,470 --> 01:50:41,760
and then something put this in my hands

2720
01:50:44,870 --> 01:50:42,480
and i said

2721
01:50:46,629 --> 01:50:44,880
to myself this is weird i didn't have

2722
01:50:48,790 --> 01:50:46,639
any connection to this i was kind of

2723
01:50:50,310 --> 01:50:48,800
freaked out like being woken up in this

2724
01:50:52,790 --> 01:50:50,320
dream within a dream

2725
01:50:55,030 --> 01:50:52,800
and i went back to sleep but i think

2726
01:50:58,390 --> 01:50:55,040
that was part of the genetics that i

2727
01:50:59,030 --> 01:50:58,400
donated for a hybrid being i can't prove

2728
01:51:01,910 --> 01:50:59,040
any of this

2729
01:51:02,390 --> 01:51:01,920
it's something i've never forgotten but

2730
01:51:04,870 --> 01:51:02,400
um

2731
01:51:05,510 --> 01:51:04,880
that was the upshot of that abduction

2732
01:51:08,790 --> 01:51:05,520
experience

2733
01:51:09,350 --> 01:51:08,800
did you did you continue did you feel

2734
01:51:22,390 --> 01:51:09,360
that

2735
01:51:24,950 --> 01:51:22,400
i was sucked down the rabbit hole like i

2736
01:51:27,990 --> 01:51:24,960
i bought hundreds of ufo books i

2737
01:51:28,870 --> 01:51:28,000
i i sought out people like whitley and

2738
01:51:31,270 --> 01:51:28,880
so

2739
01:51:34,229 --> 01:51:31,280
meeting these people it is a kind of

2740
01:51:36,709 --> 01:51:34,239
continuation of contact it was a it was

2741
01:51:37,990 --> 01:51:36,719
a 30-year process to integrate this but

2742
01:51:40,390 --> 01:51:38,000
i feel like

2743
01:51:43,270 --> 01:51:40,400
these beings and this is why i wrote the

2744
01:51:45,750 --> 01:51:43,280
book i mean sort of

2745
01:51:47,669 --> 01:51:45,760
wanting us to grow up i mean it's

2746
01:51:50,229 --> 01:51:47,679
traumatic because they're different

2747
01:51:51,910 --> 01:51:50,239
not because they're bad or evil or any

2748
01:51:54,790 --> 01:51:51,920
this is my opinion other people have

2749
01:51:56,470 --> 01:51:54,800
david jacobs has another opinion i think

2750
01:52:00,149 --> 01:51:56,480
they're at a different vibration

2751
01:52:01,990 --> 01:52:00,159
but there's a there's a meeting of of

2752
01:52:03,589 --> 01:52:02,000
frequencies that are happening now

2753
01:52:06,709 --> 01:52:03,599
within this year the next

2754
01:52:08,310 --> 01:52:06,719
let's say five to ten years where

2755
01:52:10,070 --> 01:52:08,320
these conversations are not going to be

2756
01:52:14,070 --> 01:52:10,080
as strange as they are now

2757
01:52:15,910 --> 01:52:14,080
so that initial introduction in 87

2758
01:52:18,070 --> 01:52:15,920
brought me to every single conference i

2759
01:52:19,910 --> 01:52:18,080
could go to to be around these people

2760
01:52:21,189 --> 01:52:19,920
there was something in the vibration of

2761
01:52:23,350 --> 01:52:21,199
these people that

2762
01:52:25,350 --> 01:52:23,360
that felt good to be around i mean i

2763
01:52:26,950 --> 01:52:25,360
went to a bud hopkins christmas party

2764
01:52:27,589 --> 01:52:26,960
and i have to say i don't know what it

2765
01:52:31,109 --> 01:52:27,599
was

2766
01:52:33,270 --> 01:52:31,119
sort of what happens at contact in the

2767
01:52:35,189 --> 01:52:33,280
desert you know what that's like where

2768
01:52:37,189 --> 01:52:35,199
everyone's on the same vibration and

2769
01:52:37,990 --> 01:52:37,199
we're all hanging out we're all thinking

2770
01:52:40,070 --> 01:52:38,000
about

2771
01:52:41,270 --> 01:52:40,080
new ideas and new possibilities there's

2772
01:52:44,310 --> 01:52:41,280
like um

2773
01:52:45,270 --> 01:52:44,320
there's like another vibe that happens

2774
01:52:48,390 --> 01:52:45,280
that feels

2775
01:52:49,830 --> 01:52:48,400
really great and alive does do you know

2776
01:52:54,070 --> 01:52:49,840
what i'm talking about i do

2777
01:52:57,109 --> 01:52:54,080
i do um i i will never uh forget

2778
01:52:59,750 --> 01:52:57,119
uh my first mufon meeting

2779
01:53:00,310 --> 01:52:59,760
right my first let's move on right and

2780
01:53:05,430 --> 01:53:00,320
and i'm

2781
01:53:06,629 --> 01:53:05,440
conversations that are happening around

2782
01:53:09,669 --> 01:53:06,639
me

2783
01:53:12,229 --> 01:53:09,679
and all i could think about was

2784
01:53:12,870 --> 01:53:12,239
i was at peace i'm being serious about

2785
01:53:15,750 --> 01:53:12,880
this but

2786
01:53:17,270 --> 01:53:15,760
yeah i was saying to myself my people

2787
01:53:19,990 --> 01:53:17,280
right

2788
01:53:21,430 --> 01:53:20,000
this is my people man i bet no one's

2789
01:53:24,229 --> 01:53:21,440
told you this or maybe they have but

2790
01:53:25,510 --> 01:53:24,239
you could be an abductee contactee yeah

2791
01:53:28,550 --> 01:53:25,520
i hear it all the time

2792
01:53:31,109 --> 01:53:28,560
i'm not so sure um i've had

2793
01:53:31,669 --> 01:53:31,119
i've had experiences but i don't know if

2794
01:53:34,149 --> 01:53:31,679
i'm an

2795
01:53:35,270 --> 01:53:34,159
experiencer but this is the other thing

2796
01:53:37,669 --> 01:53:35,280
alan

2797
01:53:38,870 --> 01:53:37,679
you took the big step you did the

2798
01:53:43,430 --> 01:53:38,880
regression

2799
01:53:46,229 --> 01:53:43,440
yeah i don't know if i want to find out

2800
01:53:47,669 --> 01:53:46,239
right well it will change you it will

2801
01:53:50,149 --> 01:53:47,679
change you

2802
01:53:52,709 --> 01:53:50,159
it will i just don't know if i want to

2803
01:53:57,109 --> 01:53:55,030
there there are there are reasons to do

2804
01:53:59,189 --> 01:53:57,119
it you had your reasons and

2805
01:54:00,550 --> 01:53:59,199
your girlfriend at the time also had a

2806
01:54:03,189 --> 01:54:00,560
regression

2807
01:54:03,910 --> 01:54:03,199
um and oh i wanted to i wanted to ask

2808
01:54:06,550 --> 01:54:03,920
you did you

2809
01:54:08,070 --> 01:54:06,560
do you still stay in contact you know i

2810
01:54:10,950 --> 01:54:08,080
had talked to her

2811
01:54:11,350 --> 01:54:10,960
recently because i had seen her daughter

2812
01:54:13,830 --> 01:54:11,360
and

2813
01:54:15,430 --> 01:54:13,840
i said to her on the phone um i i hadn't

2814
01:54:16,070 --> 01:54:15,440
seen her for a long time but you know

2815
01:54:18,709 --> 01:54:16,080
she

2816
01:54:20,550 --> 01:54:18,719
was a big part of that moment and so i

2817
01:54:22,229 --> 01:54:20,560
talked to her maybe after

2818
01:54:23,589 --> 01:54:22,239
maybe it was 20 years i said you

2819
01:54:25,189 --> 01:54:23,599
remember that time we drove cross

2820
01:54:27,430 --> 01:54:25,199
country and she said yeah when we were

2821
01:54:29,510 --> 01:54:27,440
frozen and suspended animation

2822
01:54:30,629 --> 01:54:29,520
and then that was the first thing out of

2823
01:54:33,669 --> 01:54:30,639
her mouth and i said

2824
01:54:35,430 --> 01:54:33,679
exactly and i talked to her again when i

2825
01:54:37,350 --> 01:54:35,440
was writing this book and about her our

2826
01:54:39,030 --> 01:54:37,360
journey and actually i think she called

2827
01:54:42,149 --> 01:54:39,040
me out of nowhere i mean we've

2828
01:54:43,350 --> 01:54:42,159
always been on good terms but uh yeah i

2829
01:54:46,790 --> 01:54:43,360
talked to her and that was

2830
01:54:49,750 --> 01:54:46,800
our moment and that bonds people

2831
01:54:51,510 --> 01:54:49,760
probably forever you know combining

2832
01:54:54,550 --> 01:54:51,520
genetics in whatever way

2833
01:54:57,510 --> 01:54:54,560
and um yeah for for sure and

2834
01:54:59,030 --> 01:54:57,520
you said something else earlier i want

2835
01:55:00,629 --> 01:54:59,040
to circle back and we can

2836
01:55:02,070 --> 01:55:00,639
pick this up after the break but we've

2837
01:55:04,790 --> 01:55:02,080
got about five minutes

2838
01:55:05,910 --> 01:55:04,800
you said something earlier that um most

2839
01:55:09,550 --> 01:55:05,920
abductees

2840
01:55:11,910 --> 01:55:09,560
their experience is not

2841
01:55:14,070 --> 01:55:11,920
traumatic what they go through finding

2842
01:55:15,350 --> 01:55:14,080
out what happened may be traumatic but

2843
01:55:19,030 --> 01:55:15,360
the experience itself

2844
01:55:23,030 --> 01:55:21,270
but actually meeting the beings is

2845
01:55:25,669 --> 01:55:23,040
traumatic because they're

2846
01:55:26,470 --> 01:55:25,679
outside of our world view that's the

2847
01:55:30,149 --> 01:55:26,480
trauma

2848
01:55:33,589 --> 01:55:30,159
because we don't

2849
01:55:36,390 --> 01:55:33,599
there's no way to fit them into our

2850
01:55:38,709 --> 01:55:36,400
mundane ordinary reality but they're not

2851
01:55:41,830 --> 01:55:38,719
traumatizing us is what i mean

2852
01:55:45,030 --> 01:55:41,840
do you and then what do we

2853
01:55:48,070 --> 01:55:45,040
what do we say to those abductees

2854
01:55:52,310 --> 01:55:48,080
where their experience was anything but

2855
01:55:55,030 --> 01:55:52,320
kind well look at whitley strieber

2856
01:55:55,830 --> 01:55:55,040
yes the best thing that ever happened he

2857
01:55:59,109 --> 01:55:55,840
said you know

2858
01:56:01,430 --> 01:55:59,119
as the anal probe uh was a

2859
01:56:02,870 --> 01:56:01,440
and you there's a great guy just talked

2860
01:56:05,510 --> 01:56:02,880
to what was his name

2861
01:56:07,350 --> 01:56:05,520
he said he went through heavy heavy you

2862
01:56:09,990 --> 01:56:07,360
know contact circumstances

2863
01:56:11,589 --> 01:56:10,000
and it was all to wake him up to who he

2864
01:56:14,229 --> 01:56:11,599
really was so

2865
01:56:15,430 --> 01:56:14,239
i can't say for anyone else's experience

2866
01:56:19,350 --> 01:56:15,440
yeah there's been some

2867
01:56:21,830 --> 01:56:19,360
awful things happening to people but

2868
01:56:22,950 --> 01:56:21,840
did it open them up to a greater reality

2869
01:56:25,270 --> 01:56:22,960
are they different

2870
01:56:27,669 --> 01:56:25,280
i mean travis definitely said i just

2871
01:56:29,510 --> 01:56:27,679
told him the other day i said travis you

2872
01:56:31,030 --> 01:56:29,520
if you could do it all over again do you

2873
01:56:32,950 --> 01:56:31,040
think this you wish this never happened

2874
01:56:35,589 --> 01:56:32,960
he said yep i wish this never

2875
01:56:36,950 --> 01:56:35,599
happened well yeah and i've asked him

2876
01:56:38,470 --> 01:56:36,960
the same thing and that's a really good

2877
01:56:42,390 --> 01:56:38,480
point alan

2878
01:56:45,589 --> 01:56:42,400
i think uh i don't think travis uh

2879
01:56:49,430 --> 01:56:45,599
it wasn't the experience it was

2880
01:56:51,830 --> 01:56:49,440
how the world treated him afterwards and

2881
01:56:53,109 --> 01:56:51,840
that's what he definitely doesn't i i

2882
01:56:55,750 --> 01:56:53,119
wouldn't want to have

2883
01:56:56,709 --> 01:56:55,760
gone through what what travis has gone

2884
01:56:58,470 --> 01:56:56,719
through

2885
01:57:00,550 --> 01:56:58,480
yeah you're right it's been awful for

2886
01:57:01,830 --> 01:57:00,560
him but he's a real hero in our field

2887
01:57:05,750 --> 01:57:01,840
he's amazing

2888
01:57:07,350 --> 01:57:05,760
treasure i i i'd say because

2889
01:57:09,430 --> 01:57:07,360
he's been through it he's been

2890
01:57:12,070 --> 01:57:09,440
challenged and anyway

2891
01:57:14,390 --> 01:57:12,080
for me i can't talk about anyone else

2892
01:57:17,430 --> 01:57:14,400
and their experiences it was

2893
01:57:20,390 --> 01:57:17,440
not uh pleasant but i think i

2894
01:57:22,229 --> 01:57:20,400
worked through that so i could be more

2895
01:57:25,189 --> 01:57:22,239
expanded i think my whole show

2896
01:57:26,870 --> 01:57:25,199
new realities came out of the fact that

2897
01:57:29,990 --> 01:57:26,880
i was exposed and maybe

2898
01:57:32,390 --> 01:57:30,000
even younger as a child i had dreams and

2899
01:57:33,990 --> 01:57:32,400
visions and these beings at the window i

2900
01:57:36,390 --> 01:57:34,000
mean sort of typical but

2901
01:57:38,149 --> 01:57:36,400
i do have these vague memories and also

2902
01:57:39,589 --> 01:57:38,159
not fitting in you know i write that

2903
01:57:41,430 --> 01:57:39,599
about that in my chapter

2904
01:57:43,589 --> 01:57:41,440
i was always looking at the stars i

2905
01:57:45,030 --> 01:57:43,599
always felt different than everyone else

2906
01:57:46,470 --> 01:57:45,040
in my family and

2907
01:57:49,350 --> 01:57:46,480
people i grew up with there was

2908
01:57:50,310 --> 01:57:49,360
something else and i couldn't explain it

2909
01:57:52,629 --> 01:57:50,320
but

2910
01:57:54,629 --> 01:57:52,639
you know at least having this experience

2911
01:57:55,669 --> 01:57:54,639
and writing this book and making sense

2912
01:57:57,669 --> 01:57:55,679
of it and then i

2913
01:57:59,990 --> 01:57:57,679
maybe realized why i always felt a

2914
01:58:03,030 --> 01:58:00,000
little different because

2915
01:58:05,830 --> 01:58:03,040
there was i was i was aware of

2916
01:58:07,430 --> 01:58:05,840
other realities that maybe other people

2917
01:58:09,910 --> 01:58:07,440
didn't care about

2918
01:58:10,470 --> 01:58:09,920
we uh we need to take a break right here

2919
01:58:12,950 --> 01:58:10,480
alan

2920
01:58:15,270 --> 01:58:12,960
and uh when we come back i want to talk

2921
01:58:17,589 --> 01:58:15,280
about where we are today

2922
01:58:19,510 --> 01:58:17,599
as as a planet as a society and

2923
01:58:22,149 --> 01:58:19,520
certainly with the mass media

2924
01:58:22,550 --> 01:58:22,159
and and everything that is just blasting

2925
01:58:25,910 --> 01:58:22,560
out

2926
01:58:29,109 --> 01:58:25,920
in front of us it seems like daily now

2927
01:58:31,750 --> 01:58:29,119
ufos are are a thing right

2928
01:58:33,270 --> 01:58:31,760
ufos are a thing and it it it wasn't

2929
01:58:35,990 --> 01:58:33,280
like this 20 years ago

2930
01:58:36,870 --> 01:58:36,000
but hopkins and john mack had a hard

2931
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road

2932
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uh linda multan howe had a you know a

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very

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you know trying to get the message out

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and and spread this knowledge

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today it's it's it's

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it's like the thing right this is our

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time

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tonight with alan steinfeld took ten

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3057
02:04:14,629 --> 02:04:11,599
uh tonight is alan's a game uh

3058
02:04:17,750 --> 02:04:14,639
what a great conversation now um

3059
02:04:21,270 --> 02:04:17,760
here's here's where we are yeah

3060
02:04:23,669 --> 02:04:21,280
exactly today it's fun

3061
02:04:24,629 --> 02:04:23,679
we have science and physics we have

3062
02:04:27,350 --> 02:04:24,639
astronomy

3063
02:04:29,589 --> 02:04:27,360
and and the things and that you know

3064
02:04:32,310 --> 02:04:29,599
exoplanets and fast radio bursts

3065
02:04:34,550 --> 02:04:32,320
and the search for alien life and and

3066
02:04:36,629 --> 02:04:34,560
radio signals from europa we've got that

3067
02:04:38,069 --> 02:04:36,639
we've got the pentagon we've got marco

3068
02:04:40,550 --> 02:04:38,079
rubio we've got the uap

3069
02:04:42,390 --> 02:04:40,560
task force we have pilots and crew

3070
02:04:44,950 --> 02:04:42,400
members and things and video

3071
02:04:47,910 --> 02:04:44,960
and we have all of that we have all of

3072
02:04:50,550 --> 02:04:47,920
the contactees that are coming forward

3073
02:04:53,350 --> 02:04:50,560
and and things that are happening uh at

3074
02:04:55,350 --> 02:04:53,360
a very rapid pace in the ufo community

3075
02:04:56,790 --> 02:04:55,360
jacques valley and and paula harris are

3076
02:04:57,830 --> 02:04:56,800
about to come out with the new book your

3077
02:05:01,030 --> 02:04:57,840
new book

3078
02:05:03,830 --> 02:05:01,040
um things are happening but there's

3079
02:05:05,430 --> 02:05:03,840
for me alan are you a bit worried does

3080
02:05:08,629 --> 02:05:05,440
it bother you

3081
02:05:09,669 --> 02:05:08,639
that much of this in the mass media is

3082
02:05:13,350 --> 02:05:09,679
coming from

3083
02:05:16,709 --> 02:05:13,360
of view

3084
02:05:18,390 --> 02:05:16,719
it's not coming from who is in your book

3085
02:05:20,229 --> 02:05:18,400
we're missing that element in the

3086
02:05:21,510 --> 02:05:20,239
message to the public does that bother

3087
02:05:23,830 --> 02:05:21,520
you

3088
02:05:25,510 --> 02:05:23,840
yeah but we're doing these shows we're

3089
02:05:28,229 --> 02:05:25,520
having these conversations

3090
02:05:29,510 --> 02:05:28,239
there's more and more social media

3091
02:05:32,470 --> 02:05:29,520
there's the internet

3092
02:05:33,589 --> 02:05:32,480
so people realize they don't have to

3093
02:05:35,669 --> 02:05:33,599
trust the government

3094
02:05:36,790 --> 02:05:35,679
and if we listen to the government

3095
02:05:39,430 --> 02:05:36,800
they're not going back

3096
02:05:40,870 --> 02:05:39,440
any further than 2004 it's like all of a

3097
02:05:45,189 --> 02:05:40,880
sudden the nimitz

3098
02:05:48,390 --> 02:05:45,199
sees a craft and they forget about 1947

3099
02:05:50,069 --> 02:05:48,400
and all those years in between so people

3100
02:05:51,510 --> 02:05:50,079
with a little bit of awareness and this

3101
02:05:55,030 --> 02:05:51,520
is what we're educating

3102
02:05:56,870 --> 02:05:55,040
them to see that the government

3103
02:05:59,189 --> 02:05:56,880
doesn't know what to do with it they're

3104
02:06:01,270 --> 02:05:59,199
they're they're they're um

3105
02:06:03,589 --> 02:06:01,280
they're only giving us half the story

3106
02:06:04,950 --> 02:06:03,599
and we've been doubting the government

3107
02:06:06,709 --> 02:06:04,960
for a long time i don't want to get into

3108
02:06:09,910 --> 02:06:06,719
the whole conspiracy thing but

3109
02:06:10,790 --> 02:06:09,920
it's obviously now that there's more to

3110
02:06:13,189 --> 02:06:10,800
the story

3111
02:06:15,189 --> 02:06:13,199
and we need to look beyond the

3112
02:06:17,109 --> 02:06:15,199
government to realize what the nature of

3113
02:06:18,709 --> 02:06:17,119
reality is so it doesn't bother me

3114
02:06:19,750 --> 02:06:18,719
because they're just giving away their

3115
02:06:22,069 --> 02:06:19,760
hand

3116
02:06:23,430 --> 02:06:22,079
well okay now and you've been at this

3117
02:06:26,790 --> 02:06:23,440
for a long time

3118
02:06:30,550 --> 02:06:26,800
and you know uh it's been us

3119
02:06:34,550 --> 02:06:30,560
versus them for a very long time

3120
02:06:38,550 --> 02:06:34,560
and and uh the teasing the ridicule

3121
02:06:40,790 --> 02:06:38,560
um the tinfoil hat crowd were crazy

3122
02:06:41,750 --> 02:06:40,800
we've been dealing with that out of

3123
02:06:46,069 --> 02:06:41,760
washington

3124
02:06:48,790 --> 02:06:46,079
uh for a very long time the new

3125
02:06:49,830 --> 02:06:48,800
you know generations that are coming in

3126
02:06:53,109 --> 02:06:49,840
a lot of them

3127
02:06:54,870 --> 02:06:53,119
are here because of december 2017 the

3128
02:06:57,109 --> 02:06:54,880
new york times and ttsa

3129
02:06:58,390 --> 02:06:57,119
and tom de long and i get that and i

3130
02:07:01,430 --> 02:06:58,400
appreciate that

3131
02:07:04,629 --> 02:07:01,440
but they are trusting the man

3132
02:07:07,910 --> 02:07:04,639
you said it yourself use that word trust

3133
02:07:10,950 --> 02:07:07,920
that's uh that's that's a strange

3134
02:07:14,870 --> 02:07:10,960
zone for this new uh

3135
02:07:18,870 --> 02:07:14,880
influx of uh knowledge seekers

3136
02:07:21,510 --> 02:07:18,880
uh you know you know trust is earned

3137
02:07:22,069 --> 02:07:21,520
well let's see where we're at we're

3138
02:07:25,189 --> 02:07:22,079
seeing

3139
02:07:27,430 --> 02:07:25,199
a fracture within the government itself

3140
02:07:29,830 --> 02:07:27,440
we see louise alessandro

3141
02:07:31,910 --> 02:07:29,840
looked at his uh new york post interview

3142
02:07:34,790 --> 02:07:31,920
with stephen greenstreet

3143
02:07:35,990 --> 02:07:34,800
did you see how i did he's he's been

3144
02:07:39,030 --> 02:07:36,000
attacked by his

3145
02:07:40,069 --> 02:07:39,040
own inside pentagon people you heard

3146
02:07:43,669 --> 02:07:40,079
them say that right

3147
02:07:45,669 --> 02:07:43,679
i did so that's showing us that the

3148
02:07:49,189 --> 02:07:45,679
whole house of cards

3149
02:07:51,189 --> 02:07:49,199
is collapsing and i think alessandro

3150
02:07:53,750 --> 02:07:51,199
in particular maybe melon although he's

3151
02:07:56,950 --> 02:07:53,760
a little hedging his bets a little bit

3152
02:07:58,550 --> 02:07:56,960
are pushing for truth in the way we have

3153
02:08:01,750 --> 02:07:58,560
not seen before

3154
02:08:03,189 --> 02:08:01,760
this is our time to really come forward

3155
02:08:04,870 --> 02:08:03,199
and tell people what we've been

3156
02:08:07,109 --> 02:08:04,880
researching for all these years i think

3157
02:08:09,430 --> 02:08:07,119
it's a very exciting time because

3158
02:08:11,030 --> 02:08:09,440
really essentially the government

3159
02:08:13,030 --> 02:08:11,040
doesn't know what to make of this that's

3160
02:08:14,390 --> 02:08:13,040
my feeling there may be some inside

3161
02:08:16,390 --> 02:08:14,400
scientists but

3162
02:08:17,830 --> 02:08:16,400
these beings whoever they are and

3163
02:08:21,189 --> 02:08:17,840
wherever they're from

3164
02:08:24,629 --> 02:08:21,199
is beyond that kind of comprehension

3165
02:08:26,550 --> 02:08:24,639
of a military political mind they want

3166
02:08:28,870 --> 02:08:26,560
to talk to the people they want to talk

3167
02:08:30,470 --> 02:08:28,880
to us they want to talk to the children

3168
02:08:31,990 --> 02:08:30,480
this is where the real change is going

3169
02:08:35,589 --> 02:08:32,000
to be made so

3170
02:08:37,750 --> 02:08:35,599
it's it's all up in the air right now so

3171
02:08:39,910 --> 02:08:37,760
we have to sort our way through it that

3172
02:08:41,830 --> 02:08:39,920
is really one of the reasons i laid out

3173
02:08:43,910 --> 02:08:41,840
the book in such a spectrum of

3174
02:08:46,950 --> 02:08:43,920
possibilities so people could

3175
02:08:49,350 --> 02:08:46,960
understand something for themselves that

3176
02:08:52,149 --> 02:08:49,360
is beyond government but i do think

3177
02:08:53,430 --> 02:08:52,159
in june if you listen to alessandro

3178
02:08:55,430 --> 02:08:53,440
there's something going to be

3179
02:08:56,550 --> 02:08:55,440
pretty surprising it's already been

3180
02:09:00,149 --> 02:08:56,560
official

3181
02:09:01,830 --> 02:09:00,159
that yes there are ufos there are not

3182
02:09:03,270 --> 02:09:01,840
alessandra said they're not from any

3183
02:09:05,109 --> 02:09:03,280
country we know

3184
02:09:06,870 --> 02:09:05,119
he didn't say they were from off world

3185
02:09:08,229 --> 02:09:06,880
but that's as close as he would say

3186
02:09:10,149 --> 02:09:08,239
which is kind of a back

3187
02:09:11,350 --> 02:09:10,159
around way of saying that not from this

3188
02:09:14,069 --> 02:09:11,360
world

3189
02:09:14,950 --> 02:09:14,079
so we're about to get revelation we're

3190
02:09:17,189 --> 02:09:14,960
about to get a

3191
02:09:31,990 --> 02:09:17,199
further disclosure that's going to shake

3192
02:09:34,870 --> 02:09:32,000
up a lot available

3193
02:09:37,189 --> 02:09:34,880
we're about to enter the a.d realities

3194
02:09:39,189 --> 02:09:37,199
the after-disclosure realities

3195
02:09:40,790 --> 02:09:39,199
of what's going to be coming down and

3196
02:09:44,470 --> 02:09:40,800
and it's it's

3197
02:09:47,030 --> 02:09:44,480
something else we have to re-cognize

3198
02:09:47,750 --> 02:09:47,040
our way of relating to each other the

3199
02:09:50,709 --> 02:09:47,760
planet

3200
02:09:52,470 --> 02:09:50,719
and the cosmos this is a big shakeup and

3201
02:09:55,109 --> 02:09:52,480
we need to be prepared that

3202
02:09:55,910 --> 02:09:55,119
things are not what we've been told we

3203
02:09:58,550 --> 02:09:55,920
are

3204
02:09:59,510 --> 02:09:58,560
the brainwashing and the conditioning by

3205
02:10:03,030 --> 02:09:59,520
government

3206
02:10:06,310 --> 02:10:03,040
media politicians religion our parents

3207
02:10:06,629 --> 02:10:06,320
our educational institutions have just

3208
02:10:09,109 --> 02:10:06,639
been

3209
02:10:10,229 --> 02:10:09,119
program us to think about reality in a

3210
02:10:13,350 --> 02:10:10,239
certain way

3211
02:10:16,870 --> 02:10:13,360
now we need to look to the skies

3212
02:10:18,950 --> 02:10:16,880
trust an inner sense of self and realize

3213
02:10:20,470 --> 02:10:18,960
things are not what we've been told it's

3214
02:10:21,750 --> 02:10:20,480
what john max said

3215
02:10:24,550 --> 02:10:21,760
if we're going to understand this

3216
02:10:27,510 --> 02:10:24,560
phenomena we need other ways of knowing

3217
02:10:28,069 --> 02:10:27,520
and that's where we're at within 30 days

3218
02:10:31,750 --> 02:10:28,079
well

3219
02:10:35,189 --> 02:10:31,760
uh i i've just read your book twice

3220
02:10:39,030 --> 02:10:35,199
and one thing that is not mentioned

3221
02:10:42,229 --> 02:10:39,040
once in the book is threat

3222
02:10:45,750 --> 02:10:42,239
or fear and that is

3223
02:10:47,430 --> 02:10:45,760
what the mass media is projecting it's a

3224
02:10:49,189 --> 02:10:47,440
threat it's a threat it's our military

3225
02:10:50,390 --> 02:10:49,199
air space is it it's a threat we've got

3226
02:10:52,069 --> 02:10:50,400
to figure this out

3227
02:10:53,430 --> 02:10:52,079
this is something that we can't deal

3228
02:10:55,430 --> 02:10:53,440
with threat threat

3229
02:10:58,629 --> 02:10:55,440
threat and that's what the rest of the

3230
02:11:01,109 --> 02:10:58,639
world is hearing in this message

3231
02:11:02,470 --> 02:11:01,119
and and and i'm not comfortable i'm not

3232
02:11:04,870 --> 02:11:02,480
comfortable with that

3233
02:11:05,589 --> 02:11:04,880
well you know i think if it was really a

3234
02:11:07,990 --> 02:11:05,599
threat and

3235
02:11:09,830 --> 02:11:08,000
alessandro alludes to this they would

3236
02:11:10,310 --> 02:11:09,840
have been they would have taken over our

3237
02:11:12,550 --> 02:11:10,320
planet

3238
02:11:14,069 --> 02:11:12,560
a long time ago and maybe they have

3239
02:11:16,550 --> 02:11:14,079
taken over our minds i don't know

3240
02:11:18,550 --> 02:11:16,560
but i don't think it's a threat i think

3241
02:11:21,990 --> 02:11:18,560
it's we have more to fear

3242
02:11:24,149 --> 02:11:22,000
from each other than we do from ets and

3243
02:11:27,510 --> 02:11:24,159
i'm not saying all ets are good

3244
02:11:29,750 --> 02:11:27,520
but the ones that are here i think are

3245
02:11:31,350 --> 02:11:29,760
actually looking out for us making sure

3246
02:11:33,189 --> 02:11:31,360
we don't blow ourselves up they're not

3247
02:11:35,109 --> 02:11:33,199
going to clean up our mess

3248
02:11:36,229 --> 02:11:35,119
but i don't think they're a threat they

3249
02:11:38,790 --> 02:11:36,239
want us to get

3250
02:11:40,310 --> 02:11:38,800
out of what our good friend stanton

3251
02:11:42,470 --> 02:11:40,320
friedman used to say

3252
02:11:43,350 --> 02:11:42,480
human's favorite pastime was tribal

3253
02:11:46,550 --> 02:11:43,360
warfare

3254
02:11:49,669 --> 02:11:46,560
we have to wake up put down the guns

3255
02:11:52,870 --> 02:11:49,679
and the weapons and the fear

3256
02:11:55,589 --> 02:11:52,880
and realize we're part of a greater

3257
02:11:57,510 --> 02:11:55,599
cosmos that's the thing we have to wake

3258
02:11:58,709 --> 02:11:57,520
up the government wants to put threat in

3259
02:12:00,149 --> 02:11:58,719
there so they can build up their

3260
02:12:02,870 --> 02:12:00,159
military budget

3261
02:12:04,229 --> 02:12:02,880
but are they a threat or are we just

3262
02:12:07,990 --> 02:12:04,239
projecting what we

3263
02:12:09,990 --> 02:12:08,000
know onto the unknown the unknown

3264
02:12:12,390 --> 02:12:10,000
for me and i really wrote it in a kind

3265
02:12:15,589 --> 02:12:12,400
of uplifting positive matter

3266
02:12:18,069 --> 02:12:15,599
is full of possibilities it's not full

3267
02:12:20,310 --> 02:12:18,079
of all the projections of what we know

3268
02:12:24,709 --> 02:12:20,320
the future

3269
02:12:27,750 --> 02:12:24,719
has a lot more we have yet to imagine

3270
02:12:30,950 --> 02:12:27,760
and that opens our minds for invention

3271
02:12:31,669 --> 02:12:30,960
creativity commerce possibility free

3272
02:12:34,550 --> 02:12:31,679
energy

3273
02:12:35,830 --> 02:12:34,560
all the things we wanted are right here

3274
02:12:38,390 --> 02:12:35,840
at our doorstep

3275
02:12:39,830 --> 02:12:38,400
if we can just get over the fear which

3276
02:12:43,589 --> 02:12:39,840
has been instilled

3277
02:12:45,270 --> 02:12:43,599
and start to welcome and not in a naive

3278
02:12:47,430 --> 02:12:45,280
way but in a mature

3279
02:12:49,030 --> 02:12:47,440
understanding that we're part of these

3280
02:12:50,069 --> 02:12:49,040
beings we're not separate from

3281
02:12:53,669 --> 02:12:50,079
consciousness

3282
02:12:57,270 --> 02:12:53,679
life is an emergent property of creation

3283
02:12:58,870 --> 02:12:57,280
is my basic philosophy when we have uh

3284
02:13:00,310 --> 02:12:58,880
i can't wait to hear your answer for

3285
02:13:01,830 --> 02:13:00,320
this when we have

3286
02:13:04,629 --> 02:13:01,840
some of my favorite things are science

3287
02:13:07,830 --> 02:13:04,639
fiction movies i love it alien invasions

3288
02:13:09,350 --> 02:13:07,840
independence day greatest movie right

3289
02:13:11,189 --> 02:13:09,360
they're all good they're all good

3290
02:13:13,589 --> 02:13:11,199
they're fun but

3291
02:13:14,390 --> 02:13:13,599
this is also a perception for the rest

3292
02:13:18,709 --> 02:13:14,400
of the world

3293
02:13:21,589 --> 02:13:18,719
too as well and there is a reason

3294
02:13:22,870 --> 02:13:21,599
for the turn in the media there's a

3295
02:13:25,910 --> 02:13:22,880
reason for a turn

3296
02:13:29,109 --> 02:13:25,920
with the pentagon and and the dia

3297
02:13:31,510 --> 02:13:29,119
and marco rubio there's a reason for

3298
02:13:32,790 --> 02:13:31,520
all of this coming out right now but the

3299
02:13:35,350 --> 02:13:32,800
question is why

3300
02:13:35,990 --> 02:13:35,360
so i'm going to ask you ellen why why

3301
02:13:39,270 --> 02:13:36,000
now

3302
02:13:40,390 --> 02:13:39,280
why why disclosure what what's the

3303
02:13:42,950 --> 02:13:40,400
reason for it

3304
02:13:44,550 --> 02:13:42,960
well my deepest answer i'll get right to

3305
02:13:46,950 --> 02:13:44,560
the point is

3306
02:13:49,109 --> 02:13:46,960
it's time i think where the the

3307
02:13:52,229 --> 02:13:49,119
government's being pressured by those

3308
02:13:52,950 --> 02:13:52,239
et's that are saying if you don't tell

3309
02:13:56,310 --> 02:13:52,960
them

3310
02:13:59,109 --> 02:13:56,320
trying to be

3311
02:14:00,790 --> 02:13:59,119
one step ahead of the phenomena i think

3312
02:14:03,030 --> 02:14:00,800
you can see the worldwide

3313
02:14:04,069 --> 02:14:03,040
sightings have increased look at cheryl

3314
02:14:07,589 --> 02:14:04,079
costa's book

3315
02:14:09,990 --> 02:14:07,599
i'm sure you've interviewed cheryl about

3316
02:14:11,350 --> 02:14:10,000
so something's happening in our skies

3317
02:14:12,069 --> 02:14:11,360
it's happening on the ground it's

3318
02:14:13,990 --> 02:14:12,079
happening to

3319
02:14:15,830 --> 02:14:14,000
people getting more dreams and

3320
02:14:19,109 --> 02:14:15,840
visitations

3321
02:14:19,589 --> 02:14:19,119
and it's also a vibratory shift in the

3322
02:14:23,350 --> 02:14:19,599
level

3323
02:14:25,669 --> 02:14:23,360
of um physicality that we're

3324
02:14:27,030 --> 02:14:25,679
engaged in something is shifting and we

3325
02:14:27,910 --> 02:14:27,040
talked about this in the beginning of

3326
02:14:31,350 --> 02:14:27,920
the show

3327
02:14:33,750 --> 02:14:31,360
we're raising to a higher um

3328
02:14:35,350 --> 02:14:33,760
frequency there's a quickening going on

3329
02:14:39,189 --> 02:14:35,360
that opens our minds

3330
02:14:41,189 --> 02:14:39,199
to extraterrestrial possibilities so

3331
02:14:43,669 --> 02:14:41,199
it's all those things the government's

3332
02:14:44,310 --> 02:14:43,679
cracking the et's are putting pressure

3333
02:14:47,589 --> 02:14:44,320
on

3334
02:14:48,709 --> 02:14:47,599
them the skies are opening up with more

3335
02:14:51,270 --> 02:14:48,719
visitations

3336
02:14:52,629 --> 02:14:51,280
people are awakening on a conscious

3337
02:14:54,870 --> 02:14:52,639
spiritual level

3338
02:14:56,870 --> 02:14:54,880
and there's a vibrational shift of

3339
02:14:59,589 --> 02:14:56,880
reality that's going to shift

3340
02:15:01,030 --> 02:14:59,599
everyone who wants it who's aware who's

3341
02:15:03,030 --> 02:15:01,040
not freaked out

3342
02:15:06,069 --> 02:15:03,040
to a new level of understanding their

3343
02:15:10,149 --> 02:15:06,079
place within the greater reality

3344
02:15:13,430 --> 02:15:10,159
yeah and uh well said by the way and

3345
02:15:15,189 --> 02:15:13,440
our our community can handle it

3346
02:15:16,870 --> 02:15:15,199
there's no question about it we've been

3347
02:15:20,149 --> 02:15:16,880
waiting for it

3348
02:15:22,069 --> 02:15:20,159
we're okay we can deal with it we have a

3349
02:15:23,910 --> 02:15:22,079
way of dealing with

3350
02:15:26,470 --> 02:15:23,920
different conspiracy theories different

3351
02:15:28,629 --> 02:15:26,480
ideas we understand

3352
02:15:29,830 --> 02:15:28,639
uh how to cope with it but what about

3353
02:15:31,669 --> 02:15:29,840
the rest of the world

3354
02:15:33,510 --> 02:15:31,679
right and i know that's the biggest

3355
02:15:36,550 --> 02:15:33,520
million-dollar question

3356
02:15:37,910 --> 02:15:36,560
but if this blows out if this really

3357
02:15:40,709 --> 02:15:37,920
comes to a head

3358
02:15:41,109 --> 02:15:40,719
can the rest of the world deal with it

3359
02:15:43,669 --> 02:15:41,119
well

3360
02:15:45,189 --> 02:15:43,679
you know i think there was some recent

3361
02:15:48,310 --> 02:15:45,199
survey that said

3362
02:15:49,990 --> 02:15:48,320
uh 70 of the american population

3363
02:15:53,430 --> 02:15:50,000
believes we've been visited by

3364
02:15:55,589 --> 02:15:53,440
ufos so there's a preparation already in

3365
02:15:57,510 --> 02:15:55,599
the works the movies the television

3366
02:16:00,390 --> 02:15:57,520
shows the books these

3367
02:16:01,830 --> 02:16:00,400
these radio shows there's something

3368
02:16:04,069 --> 02:16:01,840
being seated so

3369
02:16:06,310 --> 02:16:04,079
let's give people a little more credit

3370
02:16:07,109 --> 02:16:06,320
than than what the government has and

3371
02:16:10,149 --> 02:16:07,119
let's say

3372
02:16:11,430 --> 02:16:10,159
we're mature enough to welcome a new

3373
02:16:13,109 --> 02:16:11,440
reality and

3374
02:16:14,629 --> 02:16:13,119
most a lot of people will say what's the

3375
02:16:16,629 --> 02:16:14,639
big deal other people say

3376
02:16:18,069 --> 02:16:16,639
be totally unconcerned like why does

3377
02:16:19,589 --> 02:16:18,079
that change their reality well it

3378
02:16:21,510 --> 02:16:19,599
doesn't they're still at home watching

3379
02:16:24,149 --> 02:16:21,520
the football game drinking beer

3380
02:16:24,870 --> 02:16:24,159
that's fine but what it does for some

3381
02:16:27,910 --> 02:16:24,880
people is

3382
02:16:31,669 --> 02:16:27,920
open up a possibility to for

3383
02:16:34,790 --> 02:16:31,679
more for more creativity it expands

3384
02:16:38,070 --> 02:16:34,800
our reach there's a there's a kind of

3385
02:16:40,150 --> 02:16:38,080
indirect effect of opening up the new

3386
02:16:42,709 --> 02:16:40,160
of the human mind to new possibilities

3387
02:16:45,270 --> 02:16:42,719
and i think people will be more excited

3388
02:16:45,990 --> 02:16:45,280
especially the younger generation who

3389
02:16:48,230 --> 02:16:46,000
are waiting

3390
02:16:50,150 --> 02:16:48,240
for this than maybe the older generation

3391
02:16:51,270 --> 02:16:50,160
who who've been taught to fear the

3392
02:16:53,110 --> 02:16:51,280
unknown

3393
02:16:55,669 --> 02:16:53,120
the younger you are the more excited you

3394
02:16:57,429 --> 02:16:55,679
are so give people credit i mean

3395
02:16:58,709 --> 02:16:57,439
i know you do jimmy but i think the

3396
02:17:01,110 --> 02:16:58,719
government

3397
02:17:02,629 --> 02:17:01,120
if they if these guys who are just into

3398
02:17:04,950 --> 02:17:02,639
war and military stuff

3399
02:17:06,549 --> 02:17:04,960
can handle the message don't you think

3400
02:17:09,910 --> 02:17:06,559
the average person

3401
02:17:13,110 --> 02:17:09,920
could handle it i do well

3402
02:17:16,469 --> 02:17:13,120
there's two things right if we

3403
02:17:18,790 --> 02:17:16,479
if we find out and it is

3404
02:17:19,910 --> 02:17:18,800
fully disclosed that we are not alone in

3405
02:17:22,950 --> 02:17:19,920
the universe

3406
02:17:25,990 --> 02:17:22,960
well alan that gives us a goal that

3407
02:17:27,589 --> 02:17:26,000
gives us a reason to move forward

3408
02:17:29,429 --> 02:17:27,599
right it gives us a reason to take care

3409
02:17:32,389 --> 02:17:29,439
of the planet it gives us

3410
02:17:34,150 --> 02:17:32,399
reasons to do things there's a reason

3411
02:17:36,629 --> 02:17:34,160
right there's a future

3412
02:17:38,309 --> 02:17:36,639
if the opposite is disclosed well that's

3413
02:17:38,629 --> 02:17:38,319
it man we're alone in the universe and

3414
02:17:42,150 --> 02:17:38,639
we're

3415
02:17:43,990 --> 02:17:42,160
unique there's nobody to meet that

3416
02:17:45,910 --> 02:17:44,000
is going to freak people out there's no

3417
02:17:48,150 --> 02:17:45,920
reason to take care of the planet

3418
02:17:49,110 --> 02:17:48,160
right let's just burn this thing down

3419
02:17:50,950 --> 02:17:49,120
man

3420
02:17:52,150 --> 02:17:50,960
that's what we've been told for the last

3421
02:17:54,830 --> 02:17:52,160
200 years that

3422
02:17:56,549 --> 02:17:54,840
we're a freak of nature life is an

3423
02:17:58,870 --> 02:17:56,559
anomaly and

3424
02:18:00,469 --> 02:17:58,880
that is why you know we'll just destroy

3425
02:18:03,509 --> 02:18:00,479
the planet it doesn't mean anything

3426
02:18:05,910 --> 02:18:03,519
nothing so let's be let's be

3427
02:18:07,110 --> 02:18:05,920
told a new story like i say in the

3428
02:18:10,309 --> 02:18:07,120
introduction to this book

3429
02:18:12,870 --> 02:18:10,319
it's time for a new story the new story

3430
02:18:14,950 --> 02:18:12,880
is life is everywhere if it can grow

3431
02:18:16,230 --> 02:18:14,960
between the cracks in the sidewalk in

3432
02:18:18,709 --> 02:18:16,240
new york city

3433
02:18:20,469 --> 02:18:18,719
it's an emergent property it's it's

3434
02:18:22,070 --> 02:18:20,479
everywhere throughout i mean they just

3435
02:18:25,349 --> 02:18:22,080
found mushrooms on mars

3436
02:18:25,830 --> 02:18:25,359
probably i did see that i did see that

3437
02:18:29,349 --> 02:18:25,840
right

3438
02:18:31,110 --> 02:18:29,359
i did everywhere jimmy this is not we're

3439
02:18:33,669 --> 02:18:31,120
not freaks of nature

3440
02:18:35,669 --> 02:18:33,679
consciousness is everywhere intelligent

3441
02:18:38,309 --> 02:18:35,679
life is everywhere we've just been

3442
02:18:39,110 --> 02:18:38,319
isolated i think because of our barbaric

3443
02:18:41,110 --> 02:18:39,120
behavior

3444
02:18:43,270 --> 02:18:41,120
and you know dropping the nuclear bomb

3445
02:18:45,750 --> 02:18:43,280
and linda says this and other people

3446
02:18:46,549 --> 02:18:45,760
this awakened the rest of the cosmos

3447
02:18:49,910 --> 02:18:46,559
that the

3448
02:18:52,469 --> 02:18:49,920
car keys you know

3449
02:18:54,549 --> 02:18:52,479
it's like they're uh oh we better check

3450
02:18:55,750 --> 02:18:54,559
these guys out because they've gone too

3451
02:18:58,870 --> 02:18:55,760
far now

3452
02:19:01,349 --> 02:18:58,880
so we are in star

3453
02:19:04,230 --> 02:19:01,359
for some great awakening a rude

3454
02:19:06,790 --> 02:19:04,240
awakening for some people but a really

3455
02:19:07,750 --> 02:19:06,800
incredible future i think is right on

3456
02:19:11,830 --> 02:19:07,760
the horizon

3457
02:19:12,230 --> 02:19:11,840
so just stay calm really these beings i

3458
02:19:14,309 --> 02:19:12,240
think

3459
02:19:15,830 --> 02:19:14,319
are here to help i mean maybe that's

3460
02:19:17,589 --> 02:19:15,840
naive but there's

3461
02:19:19,429 --> 02:19:17,599
i don't say all of them there's many

3462
02:19:20,870 --> 02:19:19,439
types of species out there

3463
02:19:23,110 --> 02:19:20,880
but the ones that have been holding it

3464
02:19:25,830 --> 02:19:23,120
back i think and and

3465
02:19:27,990 --> 02:19:25,840
and gauging the right time this is the

3466
02:19:28,950 --> 02:19:28,000
right time the next 10 to 20 years i

3467
02:19:31,030 --> 02:19:28,960
mean as

3468
02:19:32,469 --> 02:19:31,040
well the navy just came out ufos exist

3469
02:19:35,349 --> 02:19:32,479
it's coming out

3470
02:19:36,870 --> 02:19:35,359
i think that is just helping us get

3471
02:19:39,589 --> 02:19:36,880
ready for the time

3472
02:19:40,070 --> 02:19:39,599
when we might have more mass sightings

3473
02:19:42,870 --> 02:19:40,080
well

3474
02:19:44,070 --> 02:19:42,880
if we go back to uh the condom report

3475
02:19:47,110 --> 02:19:44,080
and the things that

3476
02:19:50,150 --> 02:19:47,120
uh were constantly banded about

3477
02:19:54,389 --> 02:19:50,160
in the 50s and 60s that

3478
02:19:56,150 --> 02:19:54,399
uh disclosure of of ufos and ets

3479
02:19:58,469 --> 02:19:56,160
visiting this planet

3480
02:20:00,230 --> 02:19:58,479
would cause a collapse of religions and

3481
02:20:03,429 --> 02:20:00,240
wall street and

3482
02:20:07,190 --> 02:20:03,439
and anarchy in the streets well

3483
02:20:10,469 --> 02:20:07,200
after the new york times article in 2017

3484
02:20:13,429 --> 02:20:10,479
clearly that didn't happen right

3485
02:20:15,270 --> 02:20:13,439
right exactly it didn't happen and it's

3486
02:20:18,309 --> 02:20:15,280
not going to happen give us more

3487
02:20:21,429 --> 02:20:18,319
credit for being intelligent people

3488
02:20:25,190 --> 02:20:21,439
right now uh

3489
02:20:29,510 --> 02:20:25,200
i wanted to ask you this as in closing

3490
02:20:33,270 --> 02:20:29,520
when uh the uap task force

3491
02:20:36,710 --> 02:20:33,280
report um hopefully it happens in june

3492
02:20:38,230 --> 02:20:36,720
do you expect the public version of that

3493
02:20:40,950 --> 02:20:38,240
report to have an e.t

3494
02:20:41,990 --> 02:20:40,960
component in it something alluding to

3495
02:20:45,349 --> 02:20:42,000
little green men

3496
02:20:45,830 --> 02:20:45,359
or is the public side of that going to

3497
02:20:48,630 --> 02:20:45,840
be

3498
02:20:50,230 --> 02:20:48,640
terrestrial it's drones it's it's the

3499
02:20:53,349 --> 02:20:50,240
russians it's the chinese

3500
02:20:55,349 --> 02:20:53,359
and the real stuff is going to be in the

3501
02:20:55,670 --> 02:20:55,359
confidential portion of the report what

3502
02:20:58,950 --> 02:20:55,680
do you

3503
02:21:00,710 --> 02:20:58,960
happen i think and you know we've been

3504
02:21:03,110 --> 02:21:00,720
around this a long time

3505
02:21:03,750 --> 02:21:03,120
i think we're going to get more slow

3506
02:21:06,950 --> 02:21:03,760
leaking

3507
02:21:08,710 --> 02:21:06,960
revelations i think i think there's

3508
02:21:10,469 --> 02:21:08,720
going to be some bombshells

3509
02:21:13,270 --> 02:21:10,479
just like the new york times december

3510
02:21:17,030 --> 02:21:13,280
17th is not 2017

3511
02:21:18,150 --> 02:21:17,040
2006 um so that was a big shot that was

3512
02:21:21,349 --> 02:21:18,160
a big bombshell

3513
02:21:23,030 --> 02:21:21,359
elizondo alluded to that get ready

3514
02:21:24,950 --> 02:21:23,040
he warned us i don't know if i

3515
02:21:26,550 --> 02:21:24,960
completely trust the guy

3516
02:21:29,030 --> 02:21:26,560
but they're not holding back that

3517
02:21:30,469 --> 02:21:29,040
pyramid jeremy corbell george knapp's

3518
02:21:33,110 --> 02:21:30,479
pyramid in the sky

3519
02:21:34,230 --> 02:21:33,120
release we're getting it fast and

3520
02:21:37,110 --> 02:21:34,240
furious so

3521
02:21:39,110 --> 02:21:37,120
i think we're going to get more than we

3522
02:21:41,270 --> 02:21:39,120
suspect that we're going to get

3523
02:21:43,349 --> 02:21:41,280
something that's going to wet people's

3524
02:21:45,990 --> 02:21:43,359
appetite but i think this is like a 10

3525
02:21:47,990 --> 02:21:46,000
or 20 year rollout but it's coming

3526
02:21:49,429 --> 02:21:48,000
it's coming it's coming down the line

3527
02:21:51,270 --> 02:21:49,439
and and they're dropping these

3528
02:21:53,270 --> 02:21:51,280
bombshells because

3529
02:21:55,990 --> 02:21:53,280
they're being i think the pressure from

3530
02:21:59,030 --> 02:21:56,000
these outside sources i mean off world

3531
02:22:00,630 --> 02:21:59,040
is making them say it's time i know it

3532
02:22:01,349 --> 02:22:00,640
feels like a science fiction movie

3533
02:22:04,389 --> 02:22:01,359
doesn't it

3534
02:22:06,870 --> 02:22:04,399
well it does um except for the

3535
02:22:07,910 --> 02:22:06,880
flying pyramids video let me ask you

3536
02:22:11,030 --> 02:22:07,920
about that for a second

3537
02:22:14,070 --> 02:22:11,040
when that uh flying toasters when

3538
02:22:17,990 --> 02:22:14,080
when that first hit the media and your

3539
02:22:19,990 --> 02:22:18,000
eyes first hit the video

3540
02:22:21,910 --> 02:22:20,000
if if somebody didn't say flying

3541
02:22:22,309 --> 02:22:21,920
pyramids if there wasn't a suggestion

3542
02:22:25,349 --> 02:22:22,319
there

3543
02:22:28,550 --> 02:22:25,359
is that what you saw

3544
02:22:31,670 --> 02:22:28,560
what did i see no um

3545
02:22:34,630 --> 02:22:31,680
it didn't look real to me actually

3546
02:22:35,510 --> 02:22:34,640
but um it looked like some reflection in

3547
02:22:37,990 --> 02:22:35,520
a mirror but

3548
02:22:39,830 --> 02:22:38,000
i i trust george knapp i don't know him

3549
02:22:41,910 --> 02:22:39,840
but he seems like a legitimate

3550
02:22:44,150 --> 02:22:41,920
journalist i mean

3551
02:22:44,950 --> 02:22:44,160
um but what about the what about the

3552
02:22:47,429 --> 02:22:44,960
strobing

3553
02:22:48,630 --> 02:22:47,439
aircraft light on that thing didn't that

3554
02:22:50,870 --> 02:22:48,640
throw you for a curve

3555
02:22:52,710 --> 02:22:50,880
since we've been talking baseball

3556
02:22:54,150 --> 02:22:52,720
because we're not used to seeing

3557
02:22:56,389 --> 02:22:54,160
anything like this

3558
02:22:58,309 --> 02:22:56,399
so when alessandro said they've been in

3559
02:23:00,070 --> 02:22:58,319
50 feet of this craft and then he's

3560
02:23:00,950 --> 02:23:00,080
asked what does it look like he can't

3561
02:23:03,590 --> 02:23:00,960
say

3562
02:23:04,070 --> 02:23:03,600
we're being prepared for the unusual the

3563
02:23:05,990 --> 02:23:04,080
weird

3564
02:23:08,469 --> 02:23:06,000
no i i mean i guess that's what you're

3565
02:23:12,150 --> 02:23:08,479
saying it threw you for a loop huh

3566
02:23:13,750 --> 02:23:12,160
well um that flashing aircraft light is

3567
02:23:17,349 --> 02:23:13,760
strobing

3568
02:23:20,790 --> 02:23:17,359
uh you know faa regulation

3569
02:23:23,990 --> 02:23:20,800
ufo uh i don't know

3570
02:23:25,590 --> 02:23:24,000
it was so you think george and jeremy

3571
02:23:28,630 --> 02:23:25,600
were kind of off with that

3572
02:23:30,070 --> 02:23:28,640
well uh what uh what what i yeah i think

3573
02:23:31,830 --> 02:23:30,080
they were completely off

3574
02:23:33,670 --> 02:23:31,840
but that's but that's another that's

3575
02:23:37,190 --> 02:23:33,680
another discussion what i do

3576
02:23:40,469 --> 02:23:37,200
find strange is the

3577
02:23:43,590 --> 02:23:40,479
navy's admission that that video

3578
02:23:47,429 --> 02:23:43,600
was part of the uap task force report

3579
02:23:50,870 --> 02:23:47,439
going to congress and it suddenly leaked

3580
02:23:53,110 --> 02:23:50,880
out into the media because i don't see

3581
02:23:56,469 --> 02:23:53,120
e.t in that video but that's that

3582
02:24:00,309 --> 02:23:56,479
my opinion doesn't matter but if that's

3583
02:24:03,670 --> 02:24:00,319
the best that the report's gonna have

3584
02:24:04,870 --> 02:24:03,680
i don't know i think what you're saying

3585
02:24:07,030 --> 02:24:04,880
if they're leaking

3586
02:24:08,309 --> 02:24:07,040
a video that looks like it's been

3587
02:24:10,389 --> 02:24:08,319
fabricated

3588
02:24:12,630 --> 02:24:10,399
and the report comes out and says look

3589
02:24:14,469 --> 02:24:12,640
this was really some reflection in some

3590
02:24:17,990 --> 02:24:14,479
guy's window or some

3591
02:24:21,110 --> 02:24:18,000
uh airplane then they're preparing us

3592
02:24:24,790 --> 02:24:21,120
for for nothing right yes yeah

3593
02:24:28,469 --> 02:24:24,800
i am strongly suggesting that yes

3594
02:24:31,429 --> 02:24:28,479
okay i'm hoping that's not the

3595
02:24:31,990 --> 02:24:31,439
that's not the case i mean i want this

3596
02:24:35,349 --> 02:24:32,000
book

3597
02:24:37,670 --> 02:24:35,359
people because obviously

3598
02:24:39,670 --> 02:24:37,680
me and you know there is something out

3599
02:24:43,030 --> 02:24:39,680
there that without a doubt oh i've seen

3600
02:24:44,630 --> 02:24:43,040
i've seen i've seen things man i've seen

3601
02:24:47,510 --> 02:24:44,640
things that i cannot explain

3602
02:24:49,349 --> 02:24:47,520
listen and you mentioned this earlier

3603
02:24:51,670 --> 02:24:49,359
alan it is so true

3604
02:24:53,910 --> 02:24:51,680
the things that come out of my mouth

3605
02:24:56,309 --> 02:24:53,920
that i have witnessed

3606
02:24:58,389 --> 02:24:56,319
look if somebody's listening to me say

3607
02:25:01,510 --> 02:24:58,399
these things i'm crazy i know i

3608
02:25:03,990 --> 02:25:01,520
sound crazy but i've seen it and

3609
02:25:06,469 --> 02:25:04,000
that's it that's it and thankfully i've

3610
02:25:09,349 --> 02:25:06,479
been around groups of people when i've

3611
02:25:10,950 --> 02:25:09,359
i've i've had my sightings but so i know

3612
02:25:13,590 --> 02:25:10,960
that the phenomenon is real

3613
02:25:15,429 --> 02:25:13,600
i know that we're being visited i just

3614
02:25:18,710 --> 02:25:15,439
don't know what's going to happen uh

3615
02:25:19,590 --> 02:25:18,720
in june with this well i think it's too

3616
02:25:22,870 --> 02:25:19,600
late the cat

3617
02:25:24,389 --> 02:25:22,880
is out of the bag the navy has already

3618
02:25:27,110 --> 02:25:24,399
admitted ufos

3619
02:25:27,830 --> 02:25:27,120
are real of course when alessandro was

3620
02:25:30,230 --> 02:25:27,840
asked are

3621
02:25:31,510 --> 02:25:30,240
these three videos all you have you

3622
02:25:33,750 --> 02:25:31,520
remember when someone asked them

3623
02:25:34,870 --> 02:25:33,760
i asked him that i asked him that on

3624
02:25:36,870 --> 02:25:34,880
this show

3625
02:25:38,630 --> 02:25:36,880
and he practically burst out laughings

3626
02:25:39,429 --> 02:25:38,640
are you kidding these are the least of

3627
02:25:42,710 --> 02:25:39,439
them

3628
02:25:45,670 --> 02:25:42,720
this guy if he's a double agent or not

3629
02:25:46,389 --> 02:25:45,680
is the guy at the forefront of the

3630
02:25:48,150 --> 02:25:46,399
disclosure

3631
02:25:49,990 --> 02:25:48,160
it seems like it maybe there's maybe

3632
02:25:51,910 --> 02:25:50,000
christopher mellon is too maybe there's

3633
02:25:52,870 --> 02:25:51,920
people pulling the strings behind these

3634
02:25:54,469 --> 02:25:52,880
people but

3635
02:25:56,790 --> 02:25:54,479
these are the go-to guys these are the

3636
02:25:59,429 --> 02:25:56,800
people we sort of have to

3637
02:26:01,110 --> 02:25:59,439
trust in a way that and they don't want

3638
02:26:01,830 --> 02:26:01,120
to break the whole story they're not

3639
02:26:04,469 --> 02:26:01,840
going back

3640
02:26:05,030 --> 02:26:04,479
before 2004. can you believe that we

3641
02:26:08,870 --> 02:26:05,040
have

3642
02:26:10,469 --> 02:26:08,880
70 what 70 years before that from

3643
02:26:12,950 --> 02:26:10,479
roswell that they're not

3644
02:26:15,389 --> 02:26:12,960
even talking about they're not talking

3645
02:26:17,429 --> 02:26:15,399
about the gordon cooper footage from

3646
02:26:20,150 --> 02:26:17,439
1950s you know

3647
02:26:22,070 --> 02:26:20,160
um there's so much footage that the

3648
02:26:22,790 --> 02:26:22,080
government has that they're not telling

3649
02:26:26,309 --> 02:26:22,800
they're gonna

3650
02:26:29,270 --> 02:26:26,319
we're gonna really

3651
02:26:29,910 --> 02:26:29,280
go further i mean eric davis july 23rd

3652
02:26:32,630 --> 02:26:29,920
says he

3653
02:26:33,990 --> 02:26:32,640
briefed the congress on crash retrievals

3654
02:26:36,950 --> 02:26:34,000
that's another

3655
02:26:39,429 --> 02:26:36,960
big bombshell so you have to look for it

3656
02:26:41,670 --> 02:26:39,439
but it's coming out and we have to know

3657
02:26:43,590 --> 02:26:41,680
how to put all the pieces together

3658
02:26:45,190 --> 02:26:43,600
and that's what your program's about

3659
02:26:48,309 --> 02:26:45,200
let's go in

3660
02:26:49,910 --> 02:26:48,319
talk to talk to these people and put the

3661
02:26:52,950 --> 02:26:49,920
pieces together because

3662
02:26:55,110 --> 02:26:52,960
the government doesn't know really what

3663
02:26:57,349 --> 02:26:55,120
to make of it that's my big take that's

3664
02:26:59,670 --> 02:26:57,359
why they're holding back the information

3665
02:27:01,990 --> 02:26:59,680
they maybe have the footage they may be

3666
02:27:05,270 --> 02:27:02,000
able to describe the technology

3667
02:27:07,830 --> 02:27:05,280
but what's what's driving this phenomena

3668
02:27:08,630 --> 02:27:07,840
who are these beings and what do they

3669
02:27:10,469 --> 02:27:08,640
want from us

3670
02:27:12,309 --> 02:27:10,479
that's the big question not that they're

3671
02:27:14,950 --> 02:27:12,319
here that's obvious but

3672
02:27:15,510 --> 02:27:14,960
why are they here and i think they're

3673
02:27:18,469 --> 02:27:15,520
here

3674
02:27:20,309 --> 02:27:18,479
to lift us lift us up to another level

3675
02:27:23,270 --> 02:27:20,319
of awareness that's my

3676
02:27:24,469 --> 02:27:23,280
optimistic naive perspective it's

3677
02:27:26,150 --> 02:27:24,479
neither naive

3678
02:27:28,790 --> 02:27:26,160
but it's very and it's not even

3679
02:27:31,590 --> 02:27:28,800
optimistic well i i think it's

3680
02:27:32,389 --> 02:27:31,600
i think it's it's a reality it's a new

3681
02:27:35,110 --> 02:27:32,399
reality

3682
02:27:36,389 --> 02:27:35,120
you should have a tv show let's call it

3683
02:27:38,389 --> 02:27:36,399
new realities

3684
02:27:40,630 --> 02:27:38,399
but this is uh but this is the other

3685
02:27:41,429 --> 02:27:40,640
part and i'm and i'm not being facetious

3686
02:27:44,710 --> 02:27:41,439
here i don't know

3687
02:27:46,870 --> 02:27:44,720
that i i fully agree with you alan

3688
02:27:49,349 --> 02:27:46,880
and i think everybody needs to listen to

3689
02:27:51,429 --> 02:27:49,359
the words that you said earlier

3690
02:27:52,630 --> 02:27:51,439
they are trying to get out i'm talking

3691
02:27:54,790 --> 02:27:52,640
about the government

3692
02:27:56,870 --> 02:27:54,800
are trying to get out in front of

3693
02:27:59,429 --> 02:27:56,880
something that is not in their

3694
02:28:00,230 --> 02:27:59,439
control and i think i think that

3695
02:28:02,469 --> 02:28:00,240
explains

3696
02:28:05,590 --> 02:28:02,479
it's like occam's razor right it's like

3697
02:28:08,309 --> 02:28:05,600
the simplest solution to all of this

3698
02:28:10,790 --> 02:28:08,319
and it makes a lot of sense the simplest

3699
02:28:13,990 --> 02:28:10,800
solution is to tell us the truth

3700
02:28:14,309 --> 02:28:14,000
roll out the bodies from 1947 onwards

3701
02:28:17,270 --> 02:28:14,319
say

3702
02:28:18,710 --> 02:28:17,280
look we messed up we hid the secret we

3703
02:28:20,550 --> 02:28:18,720
we

3704
02:28:23,030 --> 02:28:20,560
met some maybe they met these et's and

3705
02:28:25,110 --> 02:28:23,040
maybe eisenhower made an agreement for

3706
02:28:26,710 --> 02:28:25,120
technology for abductions i don't know

3707
02:28:30,389 --> 02:28:26,720
that's a whole big

3708
02:28:33,110 --> 02:28:30,399
um pile of mess to open up but

3709
02:28:34,790 --> 02:28:33,120
maybe it's time to hear the truth maybe

3710
02:28:37,349 --> 02:28:34,800
this is like the nuremberg

3711
02:28:38,230 --> 02:28:37,359
trials in a way and let's get these

3712
02:28:41,110 --> 02:28:38,240
people

3713
02:28:42,469 --> 02:28:41,120
maybe not on trial but into the question

3714
02:28:43,670 --> 02:28:42,479
you're going to tell the truth the whole

3715
02:28:45,590 --> 02:28:43,680
truth we're going to hear

3716
02:28:47,190 --> 02:28:45,600
the whole thing and it doesn't matter

3717
02:28:49,830 --> 02:28:47,200
about corporate interests

3718
02:28:50,550 --> 02:28:49,840
or religious fanatics we're going to

3719
02:28:52,389 --> 02:28:50,560
hear

3720
02:28:54,550 --> 02:28:52,399
why these beings are here what the

3721
02:28:57,349 --> 02:28:54,560
government involvement has been

3722
02:28:58,389 --> 02:28:57,359
for the last 75 years what they want and

3723
02:29:02,550 --> 02:28:58,399
how we can move

3724
02:29:03,750 --> 02:29:02,560
forward as as a as a new human race with

3725
02:29:05,670 --> 02:29:03,760
free energy

3726
02:29:07,270 --> 02:29:05,680
which of course the corporate structures

3727
02:29:09,349 --> 02:29:07,280
don't want us to have

3728
02:29:12,230 --> 02:29:09,359
and with the possibility like you said

3729
02:29:13,510 --> 02:29:12,240
jimmy of a greater future where more

3730
02:29:15,990 --> 02:29:13,520
hope and more

3731
02:29:17,990 --> 02:29:16,000
adventure imagine the history of other

3732
02:29:19,910 --> 02:29:18,000
planets and other civilizations

3733
02:29:21,030 --> 02:29:19,920
imagine what we can learn from these

3734
02:29:23,030 --> 02:29:21,040
there's their

3735
02:29:24,150 --> 02:29:23,040
level of mind and comprehension and

3736
02:29:27,429 --> 02:29:24,160
technology

3737
02:29:30,309 --> 02:29:27,439
and all the things that they think about

3738
02:29:30,710 --> 02:29:30,319
it's it's we're right there almost do

3739
02:29:33,270 --> 02:29:30,720
you

3740
02:29:35,349 --> 02:29:33,280
think um we've just got a little time

3741
02:29:35,990 --> 02:29:35,359
left and we can extend this a few

3742
02:29:39,670 --> 02:29:36,000
minutes

3743
02:29:43,030 --> 02:29:39,680
i'm happy to talk but um

3744
02:29:45,429 --> 02:29:43,040
the report let's say everything happens

3745
02:29:47,030 --> 02:29:45,439
on time report is delivered

3746
02:29:49,830 --> 02:29:47,040
uh we didn't even talk about what

3747
02:29:51,349 --> 02:29:49,840
happened with the dod ig

3748
02:29:53,750 --> 02:29:51,359
last week saying that they're going to

3749
02:29:56,710 --> 02:29:53,760
do an evaluation of the way that

3750
02:29:57,590 --> 02:29:56,720
all of the military branches have been

3751
02:30:05,590 --> 02:29:57,600
uh

3752
02:30:06,870 --> 02:30:05,600
they're just catching their bets they're

3753
02:30:09,910 --> 02:30:06,880
just hedging oh

3754
02:30:11,670 --> 02:30:09,920
because those guys are not any smarter

3755
02:30:14,070 --> 02:30:11,680
than anyone else they're they're

3756
02:30:18,550 --> 02:30:14,080
running scared but anyway do i think

3757
02:30:20,950 --> 02:30:18,560
what were you gonna ask me

3758
02:30:22,309 --> 02:30:20,960
is is this when let's say everything

3759
02:30:25,110 --> 02:30:22,319
happens on schedule

3760
02:30:27,110 --> 02:30:25,120
right yeah and uh june 24th the report

3761
02:30:30,870 --> 02:30:27,120
is delivered to congress

3762
02:30:34,070 --> 02:30:30,880
is the senate intelligence committee

3763
02:30:35,750 --> 02:30:34,080
going to bring witnesses are they going

3764
02:30:39,270 --> 02:30:35,760
to bring dave fravor are they going to

3765
02:30:42,309 --> 02:30:39,280
you know question these uh

3766
02:30:44,070 --> 02:30:42,319
different uh officers and enlisted

3767
02:30:46,870 --> 02:30:44,080
people in in the military

3768
02:30:47,429 --> 02:30:46,880
about what they saw how they saw it what

3769
02:30:49,190 --> 02:30:47,439
you know

3770
02:30:51,030 --> 02:30:49,200
is that going to happen or is it just

3771
02:30:53,429 --> 02:30:51,040
going to be a delivery of the report

3772
02:30:54,309 --> 02:30:53,439
is there going to be a hearing in in

3773
02:30:55,910 --> 02:30:54,319
congress

3774
02:30:57,990 --> 02:30:55,920
well i i don't know if it is going to

3775
02:31:00,950 --> 02:30:58,000
happen but i think it has to happen

3776
02:31:02,630 --> 02:31:00,960
we need a public dialogue just like me

3777
02:31:03,750 --> 02:31:02,640
and you are having in front of all these

3778
02:31:05,990 --> 02:31:03,760
people listening

3779
02:31:08,150 --> 02:31:06,000
we're having a public dialogue about

3780
02:31:10,309 --> 02:31:08,160
possibilities and realities

3781
02:31:12,469 --> 02:31:10,319
and this needs to happen in front of the

3782
02:31:14,070 --> 02:31:12,479
world in front of congress in front of

3783
02:31:16,070 --> 02:31:14,080
the senate yeah

3784
02:31:18,389 --> 02:31:16,080
favor needs to come forward talk about

3785
02:31:19,270 --> 02:31:18,399
what he says saying it's not was made by

3786
02:31:21,349 --> 02:31:19,280
anything

3787
02:31:22,630 --> 02:31:21,359
from this war and then this the real

3788
02:31:24,389 --> 02:31:22,640
government the secret

3789
02:31:26,309 --> 02:31:24,399
whatever you want to call the cabal the

3790
02:31:28,950 --> 02:31:26,319
deep state i don't know i don't believe

3791
02:31:31,670 --> 02:31:28,960
some of that stuff but somebody's

3792
02:31:34,950 --> 02:31:31,680
holding back the secrets whoever's like

3793
02:31:36,309 --> 02:31:34,960
um saying that um elizondo never worked

3794
02:31:38,550 --> 02:31:36,319
for atip wherever

3795
02:31:40,870 --> 02:31:38,560
that idea came from you know and he

3796
02:31:42,150 --> 02:31:40,880
would had a huge reaction he was really

3797
02:31:45,190 --> 02:31:42,160
angry about this

3798
02:31:47,429 --> 02:31:45,200
it kind of he discounted his whole

3799
02:31:49,349 --> 02:31:47,439
his whole time there at atip you could

3800
02:31:50,870 --> 02:31:49,359
see how angry he was in the stephen

3801
02:31:53,590 --> 02:31:50,880
green street um

3802
02:31:55,349 --> 02:31:53,600
uh part two about like them just saying

3803
02:31:58,710 --> 02:31:55,359
oh he never worked there but anyway

3804
02:32:01,270 --> 02:31:58,720
who's ever behind this ha that

3805
02:32:03,349 --> 02:32:01,280
that's the conversation we need to have

3806
02:32:05,110 --> 02:32:03,359
maybe that won't happen maybe that's the

3807
02:32:06,309 --> 02:32:05,120
naive thing that who's ever been pulling

3808
02:32:10,230 --> 02:32:06,319
the strings

3809
02:32:12,309 --> 02:32:10,240
since 1951 mj 12

3810
02:32:13,910 --> 02:32:12,319
these guys have to come forward maybe

3811
02:32:15,590 --> 02:32:13,920
you know and then of course you get into

3812
02:32:16,550 --> 02:32:15,600
other things who killed kennedy all that

3813
02:32:20,950 --> 02:32:16,560
stuff but

3814
02:32:24,950 --> 02:32:20,960
you know the lies have to be uncovered

3815
02:32:28,309 --> 02:32:24,960
the uh you bring up a really good point

3816
02:32:31,270 --> 02:32:28,319
the d-o-d-i-g when

3817
02:32:33,830 --> 02:32:31,280
you look at some of the words because

3818
02:32:36,870 --> 02:32:33,840
that was a very brief memorandum

3819
02:32:38,950 --> 02:32:36,880
uh that was released uh last monday a

3820
02:32:42,070 --> 02:32:38,960
week ago monday

3821
02:32:43,910 --> 02:32:42,080
but there was some strange uh some

3822
02:32:47,429 --> 02:32:43,920
strange verbiage in that

3823
02:32:49,910 --> 02:32:47,439
one of them is what actions that's a key

3824
02:32:53,910 --> 02:32:49,920
word especially coming from the military

3825
02:32:56,710 --> 02:32:53,920
what actions were taken when it comes to

3826
02:32:58,070 --> 02:32:56,720
uap's unidentified aerial phenomena what

3827
02:33:00,389 --> 02:32:58,080
do they mean by actions

3828
02:33:01,670 --> 02:33:00,399
why didn't you shoot at them you know

3829
02:33:04,950 --> 02:33:01,680
what what

3830
02:33:07,190 --> 02:33:04,960
what do they mean by actions that's a

3831
02:33:09,429 --> 02:33:07,200
it's a very interesting thing when you

3832
02:33:11,830 --> 02:33:09,439
and when it's coming from the ig

3833
02:33:13,670 --> 02:33:11,840
no it's a great point well we have to

3834
02:33:15,150 --> 02:33:13,680
just look at the simpler thing what do

3835
02:33:19,110 --> 02:33:15,160
they mean when they go from

3836
02:33:20,870 --> 02:33:19,120
ufo to uap what does it mean when they

3837
02:33:24,630 --> 02:33:20,880
go from object

3838
02:33:29,270 --> 02:33:24,640
to phenomena how does that

3839
02:33:31,910 --> 02:33:29,280
rebranding really change our perception

3840
02:33:32,710 --> 02:33:31,920
of what's out there it's not objects

3841
02:33:37,030 --> 02:33:32,720
anymore

3842
02:33:39,990 --> 02:33:37,040
it's not a thing it is a whole mindset

3843
02:33:41,830 --> 02:33:40,000
this is what there's that's makes it so

3844
02:33:43,110 --> 02:33:41,840
difficult for them to talk about because

3845
02:33:43,830 --> 02:33:43,120
they don't know what they're talking

3846
02:33:46,469 --> 02:33:43,840
about they

3847
02:33:47,510 --> 02:33:46,479
they've rebranded it great but that's

3848
02:33:49,510 --> 02:33:47,520
the bigger question

3849
02:33:50,710 --> 02:33:49,520
what does it mean to call something a

3850
02:33:53,429 --> 02:33:50,720
phenomena

3851
02:33:55,270 --> 02:33:53,439
we have to look at that too right it's

3852
02:33:57,670 --> 02:33:55,280
all about the marketing

3853
02:33:59,429 --> 02:33:57,680
right they rebranded not just about the

3854
02:34:02,870 --> 02:33:59,439
marketing they are giving us

3855
02:34:05,349 --> 02:34:02,880
keys to what is really going on

3856
02:34:07,190 --> 02:34:05,359
i think you know in in the atip report

3857
02:34:08,870 --> 02:34:07,200
when it says that phenomena is now

3858
02:34:10,710 --> 02:34:08,880
quantum physics

3859
02:34:12,950 --> 02:34:10,720
what does that mean you've seen those

3860
02:34:13,429 --> 02:34:12,960
leaked documents by melon where he says

3861
02:34:17,510 --> 02:34:13,439
on

3862
02:34:20,309 --> 02:34:17,520
say but it says atip

3863
02:34:23,270 --> 02:34:20,319
uh the phenomena is now quantum physics

3864
02:34:25,110 --> 02:34:23,280
we need to understand a whole new way

3865
02:34:27,429 --> 02:34:25,120
of science and this is what i think

3866
02:34:29,990 --> 02:34:27,439
alessandro alludes to when he says we're

3867
02:34:31,510 --> 02:34:30,000
close to duplicating that technology he

3868
02:34:33,429 --> 02:34:31,520
doesn't say through quantum physics

3869
02:34:35,590 --> 02:34:33,439
there in the green street report but he

3870
02:34:38,230 --> 02:34:35,600
does say it other places

3871
02:34:40,230 --> 02:34:38,240
so i think yeah we're not going to get

3872
02:34:43,910 --> 02:34:40,240
everything the government knows

3873
02:34:45,990 --> 02:34:43,920
but we're going to be in on a few

3874
02:34:46,550 --> 02:34:46,000
secrets that probably would not have

3875
02:34:50,230 --> 02:34:46,560
been

3876
02:34:53,590 --> 02:34:50,240
possible maybe 30 years ago

3877
02:34:56,710 --> 02:34:53,600
do you i do you think that uh

3878
02:34:58,550 --> 02:34:56,720
the other mention in this memorandum

3879
02:35:02,389 --> 02:34:58,560
from last monday

3880
02:35:05,830 --> 02:35:02,399
uh where the ig specifically uses

3881
02:35:08,469 --> 02:35:05,840
the word criminal and uh

3882
02:35:09,910 --> 02:35:08,479
the the criminal investigations branch

3883
02:35:13,030 --> 02:35:09,920
of the military

3884
02:35:14,790 --> 02:35:13,040
what that that brings in a whole nother

3885
02:35:17,990 --> 02:35:14,800
element to this entire thing

3886
02:35:19,750 --> 02:35:18,000
if they're is it because somebody's been

3887
02:35:21,429 --> 02:35:19,760
leaking stuff are they talking about

3888
02:35:23,910 --> 02:35:21,439
elizondo

3889
02:35:24,469 --> 02:35:23,920
leaking stuff and and going what what

3890
02:35:28,150 --> 02:35:24,479
would be

3891
02:35:30,790 --> 02:35:28,160
criminal about uaps and a phenomena

3892
02:35:31,590 --> 02:35:30,800
well they could mean that crim that but

3893
02:35:33,830 --> 02:35:31,600
i think what's

3894
02:35:35,349 --> 02:35:33,840
really criminal is that they haven't

3895
02:35:37,830 --> 02:35:35,359
told us the truth

3896
02:35:39,349 --> 02:35:37,840
is that they've been lying to us that's

3897
02:35:40,630 --> 02:35:39,359
criminal they've been taking the

3898
02:35:43,510 --> 02:35:40,640
technology

3899
02:35:45,270 --> 02:35:43,520
which is um really belongs to the

3900
02:35:47,429 --> 02:35:45,280
american people if they're reversed

3901
02:35:49,030 --> 02:35:47,439
engineering these craft and selling that

3902
02:35:52,150 --> 02:35:49,040
into private industry

3903
02:35:54,309 --> 02:35:52,160
for the benefit of people inside then

3904
02:35:56,870 --> 02:35:54,319
the american people who own that

3905
02:35:58,710 --> 02:35:56,880
technology from these crash retrievals

3906
02:36:00,309 --> 02:35:58,720
you know because we we're the people i

3907
02:36:01,830 --> 02:36:00,319
know that's a little silly to think

3908
02:36:05,270 --> 02:36:01,840
that's true but yeah

3909
02:36:07,030 --> 02:36:05,280
um the government is we

3910
02:36:08,710 --> 02:36:07,040
you know we're the government i know

3911
02:36:10,230 --> 02:36:08,720
this is all ridiculous to say

3912
02:36:12,630 --> 02:36:10,240
considering the government's gotten so

3913
02:36:14,389 --> 02:36:12,640
out of hand and is lying to us but the

3914
02:36:16,469 --> 02:36:14,399
criminality is that

3915
02:36:18,790 --> 02:36:16,479
we've been kept from knowing the truth

3916
02:36:22,230 --> 02:36:18,800
and this is not national security

3917
02:36:24,070 --> 02:36:22,240
this is um honing their interests i

3918
02:36:25,510 --> 02:36:24,080
think whoever the government really

3919
02:36:27,429 --> 02:36:25,520
is it's it's when we talk about the

3920
02:36:28,150 --> 02:36:27,439
government it's so many different things

3921
02:36:31,270 --> 02:36:28,160
so

3922
02:36:33,750 --> 02:36:31,280
what is criminal in my opinion

3923
02:36:34,710 --> 02:36:33,760
is that these people have been lying

3924
02:36:36,950 --> 02:36:34,720
that's criminal

3925
02:36:38,389 --> 02:36:36,960
yeah yeah you're right about that and

3926
02:36:40,230 --> 02:36:38,399
and one last

3927
02:36:41,830 --> 02:36:40,240
uh one that's what they were talking

3928
02:36:43,510 --> 02:36:41,840
about i think they were talking about

3929
02:36:45,510 --> 02:36:43,520
the leaking and uh

3930
02:36:46,870 --> 02:36:45,520
that and that that's why all this has to

3931
02:36:50,389 --> 02:36:46,880
come out in front of congress

3932
02:36:53,910 --> 02:36:50,399
yeah it has to and i think there's also

3933
02:36:55,910 --> 02:36:53,920
uh what the ig in in in reading this

3934
02:36:58,950 --> 02:36:55,920
very short memorandum

3935
02:36:59,590 --> 02:36:58,960
what it suggests to me is uh the ig is

3936
02:37:01,830 --> 02:36:59,600
upset

3937
02:37:03,110 --> 02:37:01,840
because one hand isn't communicating

3938
02:37:06,630 --> 02:37:03,120
with the other

3939
02:37:11,030 --> 02:37:06,640
and you have susan gao you know speaking

3940
02:37:13,670 --> 02:37:11,040
uh to the press uh about uh uaps and

3941
02:37:14,710 --> 02:37:13,680
and and the navy and and and everything

3942
02:37:18,230 --> 02:37:14,720
else

3943
02:37:21,270 --> 02:37:18,240
where the rest of the military and

3944
02:37:21,750 --> 02:37:21,280
the other agencies are not in control of

3945
02:37:23,590 --> 02:37:21,760
that

3946
02:37:25,990 --> 02:37:23,600
where the ig wants to step in and go

3947
02:37:27,830 --> 02:37:26,000
what what's actually going on here

3948
02:37:30,389 --> 02:37:27,840
you know we're talking about uaps and

3949
02:37:33,110 --> 02:37:30,399
ufos and little green men to the public

3950
02:37:34,070 --> 02:37:33,120
i'm not aware of any of this who else in

3951
02:37:36,070 --> 02:37:34,080
the military

3952
02:37:37,270 --> 02:37:36,080
is aware of this and i want to hear from

3953
02:37:39,030 --> 02:37:37,280
everybody

3954
02:37:40,630 --> 02:37:39,040
about how you're dealing with this

3955
02:37:43,590 --> 02:37:40,640
because right now

3956
02:37:46,070 --> 02:37:43,600
we've got uh people speaking about this

3957
02:37:49,670 --> 02:37:46,080
out into the public into the media

3958
02:37:51,030 --> 02:37:49,680
and this is going into uh mass media and

3959
02:37:53,030 --> 02:37:51,040
into publications

3960
02:37:55,270 --> 02:37:53,040
we need to get this under control and i

3961
02:37:57,750 --> 02:37:55,280
want to know what is going on

3962
02:37:58,469 --> 02:37:57,760
well um some people have said this is a

3963
02:38:01,190 --> 02:37:58,479
fault in

3964
02:38:01,750 --> 02:38:01,200
intelligence like why is there no one to

3965
02:38:05,510 --> 02:38:01,760
talk to

3966
02:38:08,309 --> 02:38:05,520
why is the fbi not talking to the caa

3967
02:38:10,230 --> 02:38:08,319
this is not a new thing right the navy

3968
02:38:12,469 --> 02:38:10,240
wasn't talking to the air force when the

3969
02:38:14,630 --> 02:38:12,479
air force had the debunking program to

3970
02:38:15,429 --> 02:38:14,640
make fun and ridicule any everyone who

3971
02:38:17,990 --> 02:38:15,439
saw

3972
02:38:20,070 --> 02:38:18,000
something in the sky the navy wasn't

3973
02:38:23,190 --> 02:38:20,080
included in that i mean the fracture

3974
02:38:24,950 --> 02:38:23,200
in government is part of the problem not

3975
02:38:27,110 --> 02:38:24,960
of ufos but part of

3976
02:38:27,990 --> 02:38:27,120
governing you know i think there are

3977
02:38:30,469 --> 02:38:28,000
presidents that

3978
02:38:31,270 --> 02:38:30,479
don't know what's happening in area 51.

3979
02:38:33,750 --> 02:38:31,280
i think

3980
02:38:35,190 --> 02:38:33,760
there is this top secret i don't like to

3981
02:38:37,190 --> 02:38:35,200
call it cabal because that's so

3982
02:38:40,550 --> 02:38:37,200
conspiracy but there are people

3983
02:38:42,150 --> 02:38:40,560
inside the military who've been keeping

3984
02:38:45,190 --> 02:38:42,160
the secret for a long long

3985
02:38:47,510 --> 02:38:45,200
time and i think it's just about to

3986
02:38:48,309 --> 02:38:47,520
break open and the ceiling's going to

3987
02:38:50,710 --> 02:38:48,319
fall in

3988
02:38:52,150 --> 02:38:50,720
this is my hope and then we can really

3989
02:38:55,750 --> 02:38:52,160
get to the bottom of this

3990
02:38:58,550 --> 02:38:55,760
why are we not being to why are people

3991
02:38:59,190 --> 02:38:58,560
barry goldwater wanted to find out what

3992
02:39:03,349 --> 02:38:59,200
was

3993
02:39:04,309 --> 02:39:03,359
you can't the people said to him the

3994
02:39:06,389 --> 02:39:04,319
general said

3995
02:39:07,910 --> 02:39:06,399
it's on a need to know basis and you

3996
02:39:11,429 --> 02:39:07,920
don't need to know

3997
02:39:13,110 --> 02:39:11,439
you know um truman said you know well

3998
02:39:14,870 --> 02:39:13,120
something's visiting our planets and i

3999
02:39:15,670 --> 02:39:14,880
can assure you that it's not from this

4000
02:39:19,349 --> 02:39:15,680
world so

4001
02:39:21,910 --> 02:39:19,359
i mean this is deep and deep and it's

4002
02:39:25,510 --> 02:39:21,920
it's just you know richard dolan writes

4003
02:39:28,070 --> 02:39:25,520
about this all the time and um

4004
02:39:30,230 --> 02:39:28,080
the government is fractured the world is

4005
02:39:31,429 --> 02:39:30,240
for our consciousness is fractured and

4006
02:39:34,389 --> 02:39:31,439
we are going to heal

4007
02:39:36,070 --> 02:39:34,399
our planet and our world we have to take

4008
02:39:38,950 --> 02:39:36,080
it upon ourselves and have

4009
02:39:40,309 --> 02:39:38,960
all this just right out and i don't know

4010
02:39:43,110 --> 02:39:40,319
if that's going to happen

4011
02:39:43,990 --> 02:39:43,120
next month i think it's a slow process

4012
02:39:45,830 --> 02:39:44,000
but

4013
02:39:47,110 --> 02:39:45,840
it all has to be reorganized i think

4014
02:39:48,990 --> 02:39:47,120
that's with this time

4015
02:39:50,469 --> 02:39:49,000
of covert quarantine it's a

4016
02:39:52,950 --> 02:39:50,479
reorganization

4017
02:39:54,630 --> 02:39:52,960
of the realities we've been living in

4018
02:39:57,830 --> 02:39:54,640
and then we can welcome the

4019
02:40:01,190 --> 02:39:57,840
other into our world once we get who we

4020
02:40:03,510 --> 02:40:01,200
are straight you know once we understand

4021
02:40:05,270 --> 02:40:03,520
the nature of government and the secret

4022
02:40:09,190 --> 02:40:05,280
levels of deception and

4023
02:40:11,590 --> 02:40:09,200
intrigue and all those lies then i think

4024
02:40:13,510 --> 02:40:11,600
we'll be ready to meet the other and i

4025
02:40:15,349 --> 02:40:13,520
think that's the problem

4026
02:40:17,510 --> 02:40:15,359
it's it the government seems to be in

4027
02:40:19,510 --> 02:40:17,520
the way not the ufos they're coming and

4028
02:40:21,750 --> 02:40:19,520
going at their own leisure although

4029
02:40:22,630 --> 02:40:21,760
they're coming in increasing form like i

4030
02:40:25,429 --> 02:40:22,640
said so

4031
02:40:27,030 --> 02:40:25,439
that's what this whole scramble is about

4032
02:40:29,030 --> 02:40:27,040
that's my guess there's too many

4033
02:40:31,030 --> 02:40:29,040
missing pieces at this point and i think

4034
02:40:33,030 --> 02:40:31,040
in the next couple of months we're gonna

4035
02:40:34,790 --> 02:40:33,040
have more to go on and what we're

4036
02:40:36,230 --> 02:40:34,800
talking about right now jimmy

4037
02:40:38,790 --> 02:40:36,240
have you ever thought about running for

4038
02:40:41,830 --> 02:40:38,800
office i'm being serious have you have

4039
02:40:45,830 --> 02:40:43,830
no i haven't actually because i don't

4040
02:40:48,150 --> 02:40:45,840
trust the people

4041
02:40:48,870 --> 02:40:48,160
well that's why you need to run if

4042
02:40:52,309 --> 02:40:48,880
everybody

4043
02:40:53,269 --> 02:40:52,319
thought like you man what a great place

4044
02:40:55,750 --> 02:40:53,279
this would be

4045
02:40:57,590 --> 02:40:55,760
no but it's they did those movies mr

4046
02:40:58,870 --> 02:40:57,600
something goes to washington and said

4047
02:41:01,030 --> 02:40:58,880
why don't you come out with the public

4048
02:41:01,670 --> 02:41:01,040
and he's laughed at i mean the truth i

4049
02:41:05,510 --> 02:41:01,680
mean

4050
02:41:07,670 --> 02:41:05,520
this is not a new phenomena you know uh

4051
02:41:09,670 --> 02:41:07,680
it's always been like this that those in

4052
02:41:13,349 --> 02:41:09,680
power want to hold on to power

4053
02:41:15,910 --> 02:41:13,359
we need a new story for humanity and i

4054
02:41:18,309 --> 02:41:15,920
think this is the opportunity the ufos

4055
02:41:21,349 --> 02:41:18,319
ets whatever they are

4056
02:41:24,469 --> 02:41:21,359
offer us that we can break down the old

4057
02:41:28,230 --> 02:41:24,479
and set up a new structure based on

4058
02:41:30,790 --> 02:41:28,240
a new technology a new more morality

4059
02:41:32,870 --> 02:41:30,800
a new sense of wholeness for the planet

4060
02:41:34,710 --> 02:41:32,880
and compassion for each other

4061
02:41:36,870 --> 02:41:34,720
i think this is the opportunity that

4062
02:41:39,269 --> 02:41:36,880
we're faced with now this is what i hope

4063
02:41:40,550 --> 02:41:39,279
the book presents as far as an evolution

4064
02:41:43,110 --> 02:41:40,560
of consciousness

4065
02:41:43,990 --> 02:41:43,120
that's time to wake up to who we really

4066
02:41:47,110 --> 02:41:44,000
are

4067
02:41:49,269 --> 02:41:47,120
and and start a start a new world based

4068
02:41:52,309 --> 02:41:49,279
on on new possibilities

4069
02:41:54,950 --> 02:41:52,319
why isn't um and you've got

4070
02:41:56,070 --> 02:41:54,960
uh a strong association with the united

4071
02:41:59,030 --> 02:41:56,080
nations

4072
02:42:00,790 --> 02:41:59,040
why isn't right now this seems to be a

4073
02:42:03,990 --> 02:42:00,800
united states navy

4074
02:42:05,590 --> 02:42:04,000
issue clearly alan it is not it's a

4075
02:42:07,910 --> 02:42:05,600
global issue

4076
02:42:08,630 --> 02:42:07,920
why isn't the united nations speaking

4077
02:42:12,150 --> 02:42:08,640
about this

4078
02:42:14,630 --> 02:42:12,160
and and about our future and well

4079
02:42:16,710 --> 02:42:14,640
i i don't get that part i think the

4080
02:42:17,030 --> 02:42:16,720
united nations personally even though i

4081
02:42:26,070 --> 02:42:17,040
i

4082
02:42:29,670 --> 02:42:26,080
just

4083
02:42:30,550 --> 02:42:29,680
a kind of uh figurehead i think you know

4084
02:42:33,590 --> 02:42:30,560
we

4085
02:42:35,110 --> 02:42:33,600
this has to be a people's movement this

4086
02:42:37,429 --> 02:42:35,120
has to be like the

4087
02:42:38,309 --> 02:42:37,439
women's movement black liberate all

4088
02:42:40,070 --> 02:42:38,319
these uh

4089
02:42:42,070 --> 02:42:40,080
social movements that are still in

4090
02:42:45,190 --> 02:42:42,080
progress of course but it was about

4091
02:42:46,870 --> 02:42:45,200
people coming forward and saying i want

4092
02:42:48,790 --> 02:42:46,880
to know the truth i want to be treated

4093
02:42:50,870 --> 02:42:48,800
equal

4094
02:42:52,550 --> 02:42:50,880
it's it's a grassroots movement that's

4095
02:42:54,230 --> 02:42:52,560
what we're doing that's what we're doing

4096
02:42:56,630 --> 02:42:54,240
here that's what we do at contact

4097
02:42:57,750 --> 02:42:56,640
in the desert we're gaining momentum

4098
02:42:59,910 --> 02:42:57,760
where people

4099
02:43:02,469 --> 02:42:59,920
have to demand it's what stephen bassett

4100
02:43:03,510 --> 02:43:02,479
tried to do in 2014 with the citizens

4101
02:43:06,150 --> 02:43:03,520
hearings

4102
02:43:07,429 --> 02:43:06,160
we have to demand the truth this is the

4103
02:43:09,190 --> 02:43:07,439
only way it's going to come out i don't

4104
02:43:12,870 --> 02:43:09,200
think the united nations is

4105
02:43:16,070 --> 02:43:12,880
interested in this but they should be

4106
02:43:19,269 --> 02:43:16,080
um it's up to individuals like us

4107
02:43:22,710 --> 02:43:19,279
it really is alan thank you so much man

4108
02:43:24,469 --> 02:43:22,720
and uh uh let's not wait another 10

4109
02:43:26,550 --> 02:43:24,479
years

4110
02:43:28,790 --> 02:43:26,560
jimmy i'll come on your show and we only

4111
02:43:31,830 --> 02:43:28,800
just scratch the surface i know

4112
02:43:34,309 --> 02:43:31,840
because you you know more than you're

4113
02:43:37,349 --> 02:43:34,319
saying and you ask the questions but i

4114
02:43:40,870 --> 02:43:37,359
know i want to hear your insights

4115
02:43:43,349 --> 02:43:40,880
because you you have as much a handle on

4116
02:43:44,070 --> 02:43:43,359
this what's coming up than anyone

4117
02:43:47,190 --> 02:43:44,080
because you're

4118
02:43:49,670 --> 02:43:47,200
right in the mix there so i want to know

4119
02:43:50,389 --> 02:43:49,680
what you think is going to be revealed

4120
02:43:52,550 --> 02:43:50,399
in the next

4121
02:43:54,469 --> 02:43:52,560
30 days and what isn't going to be

4122
02:43:56,710 --> 02:43:54,479
really that's a boring show

4123
02:43:59,429 --> 02:43:56,720
but i'll do it on your show how's that

4124
02:44:02,550 --> 02:43:59,439
you can ask me anything you want

4125
02:44:04,950 --> 02:44:02,560
i i will do that i do an et round table

4126
02:44:06,630 --> 02:44:04,960
every wednesday night on my youtube

4127
02:44:09,349 --> 02:44:06,640
channel youtube.com

4128
02:44:11,990 --> 02:44:09,359
new realities and i've been doing uh

4129
02:44:15,590 --> 02:44:12,000
neil gore's portal to ascension

4130
02:44:17,269 --> 02:44:15,600
um a lot online things i've been doing

4131
02:44:19,110 --> 02:44:17,279
i just did an interview with ralph

4132
02:44:21,269 --> 02:44:19,120
blumenthal have you interviewed ralph

4133
02:44:22,950 --> 02:44:21,279
i am ralph and i have been talking about

4134
02:44:25,030 --> 02:44:22,960
it uh for a while now yeah

4135
02:44:28,150 --> 02:44:25,040
i've got to get him on the show his new

4136
02:44:30,309 --> 02:44:28,160
book uh the john mack book is amazing

4137
02:44:31,990 --> 02:44:30,319
it is amazing and ralph's a great guy

4138
02:44:34,070 --> 02:44:32,000
and you know ralph is uh right

4139
02:44:35,990 --> 02:44:34,080
now he's at the forefront of all this

4140
02:44:38,070 --> 02:44:36,000
he's in his store he's the guy him and

4141
02:44:40,389 --> 02:44:38,080
leslie king broke the story

4142
02:44:41,830 --> 02:44:40,399
and that was really disclosure people

4143
02:44:43,950 --> 02:44:41,840
know want to know when disclosure

4144
02:44:46,790 --> 02:44:43,960
happened it happened december 16

4145
02:44:49,190 --> 02:44:46,800
2017. that was it

4146
02:44:50,469 --> 02:44:49,200
i agree i agree those those were the

4147
02:44:53,670 --> 02:44:50,479
days of disclosure

4148
02:44:56,870 --> 02:44:53,680
what i didn't expect is that

4149
02:45:00,630 --> 02:44:56,880
uh from december 16th

4150
02:45:04,070 --> 02:45:00,640
17th um and and tom delong

4151
02:45:08,230 --> 02:45:04,080
and ttsa and the and and the

4152
02:45:11,510 --> 02:45:08,240
the the huge media machine that that was

4153
02:45:12,710 --> 02:45:11,520
that today in 2021 that that would be

4154
02:45:15,750 --> 02:45:12,720
gone

4155
02:45:19,750 --> 02:45:18,070
wasn't there a fracture i don't know the

4156
02:45:23,990 --> 02:45:19,760
inside but it seemed like

4157
02:45:27,510 --> 02:45:24,000
uh um elizondo and melon took the lead

4158
02:45:29,349 --> 02:45:27,520
and the long sort of dropped out

4159
02:45:32,309 --> 02:45:29,359
i don't know where how put off is i

4160
02:45:34,309 --> 02:45:32,319
think jim some events still around so

4161
02:45:36,309 --> 02:45:34,319
it kind of broke the surface and put

4162
02:45:38,630 --> 02:45:36,319
some guys out in front and maybe there

4163
02:45:41,429 --> 02:45:38,640
was some inside um

4164
02:45:42,950 --> 02:45:41,439
disagreement about the ways to proceed

4165
02:45:45,750 --> 02:45:42,960
this is sort of what i heard

4166
02:45:46,950 --> 02:45:45,760
and then you know alessandro is really

4167
02:45:50,309 --> 02:45:46,960
the guy because he

4168
02:45:54,150 --> 02:45:50,319
is the a tip former a tip pentagon

4169
02:45:56,710 --> 02:45:54,160
you know he's out in front so well yeah

4170
02:45:57,670 --> 02:45:56,720
but that's but that's not my point my

4171
02:46:00,950 --> 02:45:57,680
point is

4172
02:46:02,950 --> 02:46:00,960
that what ttsa started off as

4173
02:46:04,870 --> 02:46:02,960
and if you go back to that original back

4174
02:46:06,469 --> 02:46:04,880
in october before the new york times

4175
02:46:07,830 --> 02:46:06,479
article and you go back to their live

4176
02:46:09,910 --> 02:46:07,840
press conference

4177
02:46:12,309 --> 02:46:09,920
it was steve justice with the technical

4178
02:46:13,590 --> 02:46:12,319
division and anti-gravity being brought

4179
02:46:15,590 --> 02:46:13,600
to the public and

4180
02:46:17,670 --> 02:46:15,600
backwards engineering the technology

4181
02:46:18,309 --> 02:46:17,680
there was that steve justice from skunk

4182
02:46:20,309 --> 02:46:18,319
works

4183
02:46:21,910 --> 02:46:20,319
and of course you had lou elizondo and

4184
02:46:24,790 --> 02:46:21,920
you had help put off

4185
02:46:25,590 --> 02:46:24,800
and you had jim semivan and and chris

4186
02:46:27,110 --> 02:46:25,600
mellon

4187
02:46:28,550 --> 02:46:27,120
and how they were going to have a media

4188
02:46:30,150 --> 02:46:28,560
division and they were going to have an

4189
02:46:32,150 --> 02:46:30,160
investigation division and they were

4190
02:46:34,150 --> 02:46:32,160
going to have this technology division

4191
02:46:35,830 --> 02:46:34,160
that selling stock and this was a

4192
02:46:39,510 --> 02:46:35,840
company for the people and

4193
02:46:42,630 --> 02:46:39,520
the future and everything that that

4194
02:46:45,269 --> 02:46:42,640
is gone that is over that is

4195
02:46:47,510 --> 02:46:45,279
it's done with it i'm just i'm shocked

4196
02:46:48,070 --> 02:46:47,520
no i'm going to say i think this is a

4197
02:46:51,510 --> 02:46:48,080
really

4198
02:46:54,389 --> 02:46:51,520
fast moving story and whatever we think

4199
02:46:56,230 --> 02:46:54,399
is going to be it gets turned on its

4200
02:46:58,630 --> 02:46:56,240
side so it's a lot of

4201
02:47:00,630 --> 02:46:58,640
right and left-hand turns and i think we

4202
02:47:03,590 --> 02:47:00,640
have to learn to expect this

4203
02:47:05,110 --> 02:47:03,600
this is not anything we know the

4204
02:47:07,269 --> 02:47:05,120
revelations and the

4205
02:47:09,429 --> 02:47:07,279
and the form and the organizations

4206
02:47:11,590 --> 02:47:09,439
coming together and splitting apart

4207
02:47:13,590 --> 02:47:11,600
that's going to continue to happen as

4208
02:47:16,230 --> 02:47:13,600
this thing unfolds

4209
02:47:18,070 --> 02:47:16,240
its secrets and um we just have to

4210
02:47:21,110 --> 02:47:18,080
expect the unexpected and

4211
02:47:23,590 --> 02:47:21,120
um keep our eyes to the ceiling to this

4212
02:47:24,710 --> 02:47:23,600
to the sky yeah to the stars man to the

4213
02:47:28,469 --> 02:47:24,720
stars

4214
02:47:30,870 --> 02:47:28,479
exactly giorgio uh sucralose now i've

4215
02:47:31,910 --> 02:47:30,880
repeated this probably 20 times on this

4216
02:47:33,269 --> 02:47:31,920
program

4217
02:47:35,670 --> 02:47:33,279
uh but i'm going to share this with you

4218
02:47:38,309 --> 02:47:35,680
allen uh a few years ago

4219
02:47:40,710 --> 02:47:38,319
giorgio is on with this all the time but

4220
02:47:43,910 --> 02:47:40,720
a few years ago he said this one thing

4221
02:47:45,429 --> 02:47:43,920
that was so profound that i repeat it

4222
02:47:46,790 --> 02:47:45,439
all the time this is what giorgio said

4223
02:47:49,990 --> 02:47:46,800
he said look man

4224
02:47:52,630 --> 02:47:50,000
when when e.t comes and that that

4225
02:47:54,710 --> 02:47:52,640
that ship lands on the white house lawn

4226
02:47:57,190 --> 02:47:54,720
and he steps off that ship

4227
02:47:57,830 --> 02:47:57,200
and starts talking we're going to find

4228
02:48:03,510 --> 02:47:57,840
out

4229
02:48:08,550 --> 02:48:06,870
this is beyond anything we can imagine

4230
02:48:10,550 --> 02:48:08,560
at this point no matter what the

4231
02:48:13,510 --> 02:48:10,560
government thinks it knows

4232
02:48:14,710 --> 02:48:13,520
it's com we only know what we know based

4233
02:48:17,910 --> 02:48:14,720
on the past

4234
02:48:19,030 --> 02:48:17,920
this is going to blow our minds this is

4235
02:48:21,670 --> 02:48:19,040
terence mckenna

4236
02:48:23,910 --> 02:48:21,680
said he if you ever met terence he said

4237
02:48:24,790 --> 02:48:23,920
the universe is not only stranger than

4238
02:48:28,309 --> 02:48:24,800
we imagine

4239
02:48:31,670 --> 02:48:28,319
it might be stranger than we can imagine

4240
02:48:33,110 --> 02:48:31,680
so you know we have to be prepared for

4241
02:48:35,990 --> 02:48:33,120
the unknown

4242
02:48:36,389 --> 02:48:36,000
and i agree with giorgio this is not

4243
02:48:39,349 --> 02:48:36,399
like

4244
02:48:41,190 --> 02:48:39,359
anything we have yet to conceive in my

4245
02:48:44,230 --> 02:48:41,200
chapter i talk about

4246
02:48:46,630 --> 02:48:44,240
consciousness being greater than the

4247
02:48:47,590 --> 02:48:46,640
imagination the actuality of

4248
02:48:50,469 --> 02:48:47,600
consciousness

4249
02:48:52,389 --> 02:48:50,479
blows away our imagination that means

4250
02:48:55,750 --> 02:48:52,399
what we're coming into

4251
02:48:59,030 --> 02:48:55,760
is stretching us beyond our beliefs

4252
02:49:00,070 --> 02:48:59,040
beyond possibility we are waking up to a

4253
02:49:02,150 --> 02:49:00,080
new heaven

4254
02:49:04,790 --> 02:49:02,160
and a new earth so let's prepare

4255
02:49:07,590 --> 02:49:04,800
ourselves for these new times for

4256
02:49:09,190 --> 02:49:07,600
the times they are changing thank you so

4257
02:49:09,990 --> 02:49:09,200
much alan i don't know when i'm going to

4258
02:49:13,190 --> 02:49:10,000
see you again

4259
02:49:16,389 --> 02:49:13,200
we we hang out all year long right

4260
02:49:17,349 --> 02:49:16,399
and and i haven't seen you now for for

4261
02:49:20,309 --> 02:49:17,359
over a year

4262
02:49:21,590 --> 02:49:20,319
uh it's it's just crazy times but uh i

4263
02:49:24,469 --> 02:49:21,600
can't wait to hang out with you

4264
02:49:24,790 --> 02:49:24,479
jimmy you're doing a great job i i think

4265
02:49:32,950 --> 02:49:24,800
you

4266
02:49:36,469 --> 02:49:32,960
i mean so keep up the good work things

4267
02:49:40,550 --> 02:49:36,479
think and ke you know this is really

4268
02:49:44,230 --> 02:49:40,560
uh a time to not expect anything but

4269
02:49:44,790 --> 02:49:44,240
accept everything we can't project the

4270
02:49:48,150 --> 02:49:44,800
future

4271
02:49:50,630 --> 02:49:48,160
we are in such strange times now that

4272
02:49:51,510 --> 02:49:50,640
nothing is predictable and i i think

4273
02:49:53,429 --> 02:49:51,520
that makes it

4274
02:49:55,670 --> 02:49:53,439
really really exciting we are on the

4275
02:49:58,230 --> 02:49:55,680
threshold of the unknown

4276
02:49:59,349 --> 02:49:58,240
and and we can't project what we know

4277
02:50:01,190 --> 02:49:59,359
i've said this but

4278
02:50:03,110 --> 02:50:01,200
it's like we have to keep being

4279
02:50:05,030 --> 02:50:03,120
available and present

4280
02:50:06,150 --> 02:50:05,040
in the moment we just have to let it

4281
02:50:08,389 --> 02:50:06,160
come into us

4282
02:50:09,269 --> 02:50:08,399
and say oh yeah oh yeah that one that

4283
02:50:11,590 --> 02:50:09,279
one and just

4284
02:50:12,950 --> 02:50:11,600
sort of take all these punches and then

4285
02:50:16,070 --> 02:50:12,960
put it together and

4286
02:50:19,110 --> 02:50:16,080
formulate some other new world that

4287
02:50:20,469 --> 02:50:19,120
we can't see at this moment what are we

4288
02:50:23,590 --> 02:50:20,479
gonna do

4289
02:50:25,190 --> 02:50:23,600
if uh you know forget about the uap tf

4290
02:50:26,309 --> 02:50:25,200
the task force report but what are we

4291
02:50:29,590 --> 02:50:26,319
gonna do

4292
02:50:32,950 --> 02:50:29,600
if nasa announces tomorrow

4293
02:50:36,389 --> 02:50:32,960
life on mars right i mean that

4294
02:50:39,590 --> 02:50:36,399
that would be just as extraordinary as

4295
02:50:41,429 --> 02:50:39,600
uh visitors from zeta reticuli i mean

4296
02:50:43,750 --> 02:50:41,439
almost yeah i mean that's

4297
02:50:45,030 --> 02:50:43,760
might be the break that's going to start

4298
02:50:47,110 --> 02:50:45,040
this rolling

4299
02:50:48,630 --> 02:50:47,120
and then we go to exoplanets we see

4300
02:50:51,349 --> 02:50:48,640
vegetation but

4301
02:50:53,510 --> 02:50:51,359
the bigger question is let's say we they

4302
02:50:55,670 --> 02:50:53,520
we know everyone knows there's et's here

4303
02:50:56,469 --> 02:50:55,680
and we have free energy and everyone's

4304
02:50:59,910 --> 02:50:56,479
abundant

4305
02:51:00,950 --> 02:50:59,920
and we're all living a really joyful

4306
02:51:03,030 --> 02:51:00,960
existence

4307
02:51:04,070 --> 02:51:03,040
what what is the purpose of incarnation

4308
02:51:06,309 --> 02:51:04,080
okay let's say we know

4309
02:51:09,110 --> 02:51:06,319
this the et's are here there's energy

4310
02:51:12,309 --> 02:51:09,120
what do we do with ourselves

4311
02:51:15,670 --> 02:51:12,319
what do we do that's it that's it

4312
02:51:18,790 --> 02:51:15,680
i i don't this is this is

4313
02:51:21,110 --> 02:51:18,800
uh this is what i do know if

4314
02:51:22,070 --> 02:51:21,120
things continue like they are and i'm

4315
02:51:24,469 --> 02:51:22,080
talking about

4316
02:51:25,830 --> 02:51:24,479
the hard sciences and physics and and

4317
02:51:27,750 --> 02:51:25,840
astronomy and

4318
02:51:29,030 --> 02:51:27,760
and the search for alien life what is

4319
02:51:30,550 --> 02:51:29,040
going to go on with the senate

4320
02:51:33,510 --> 02:51:30,560
intelligence committee

4321
02:51:36,070 --> 02:51:33,520
and everything else in the ufo community

4322
02:51:37,990 --> 02:51:36,080
if things proceed like they are

4323
02:51:39,510 --> 02:51:38,000
think we're going to be able to sit back

4324
02:51:41,110 --> 02:51:39,520
and smile

4325
02:51:43,990 --> 02:51:41,120
i don't think it's going to be panic i

4326
02:51:47,269 --> 02:51:44,000
think that one of the greatest questions

4327
02:51:48,550 --> 02:51:47,279
that has been around for since the dawn

4328
02:51:51,750 --> 02:51:48,560
of time

4329
02:51:53,510 --> 02:51:51,760
right gets answered are we alone and and

4330
02:51:56,150 --> 02:51:53,520
we can move on from that

4331
02:51:57,670 --> 02:51:56,160
we can smile it's a it's a pressure

4332
02:52:00,070 --> 02:51:57,680
release valve

4333
02:52:01,030 --> 02:52:00,080
we can smile and then let's say we get

4334
02:52:03,110 --> 02:52:01,040
free energy

4335
02:52:04,469 --> 02:52:03,120
and there's abundance and they cultivate

4336
02:52:08,230 --> 02:52:04,479
the deserts and let's say

4337
02:52:10,790 --> 02:52:08,240
there's food for everyone then i think

4338
02:52:12,630 --> 02:52:10,800
the true purpose of incarnation why

4339
02:52:15,590 --> 02:52:12,640
we're here in this body

4340
02:52:16,150 --> 02:52:15,600
is to enjoy yourself to be creative to

4341
02:52:19,590 --> 02:52:16,160
to make

4342
02:52:23,670 --> 02:52:19,600
music and dance and song and and i think

4343
02:52:26,630 --> 02:52:23,680
then we truly are in the flowering

4344
02:52:27,429 --> 02:52:26,640
of humanity that's what i think it's all

4345
02:52:29,830 --> 02:52:27,439
coming down

4346
02:52:31,590 --> 02:52:29,840
for not the fact that we're inhabiting

4347
02:52:33,990 --> 02:52:31,600
the cosmos with a lot of other beings

4348
02:52:37,110 --> 02:52:34,000
that's great and that will open a huge

4349
02:52:40,150 --> 02:52:37,120
historic uh interest for people but

4350
02:52:42,630 --> 02:52:40,160
the creative aspect of the human being

4351
02:52:44,870 --> 02:52:42,640
is really why we're here that's my next

4352
02:52:48,550 --> 02:52:44,880
book no that

4353
02:52:52,070 --> 02:52:48,560
it is it's it's learning that's it

4354
02:52:54,630 --> 02:52:52,080
and learning this is your art uh

4355
02:52:55,830 --> 02:52:54,640
jimmy this is you are doing your art

4356
02:52:56,950 --> 02:52:55,840
when you open your mouth you're

4357
02:52:59,269 --> 02:52:56,960
interviewing you're

4358
02:53:00,309 --> 02:52:59,279
kind of speaking your emotion that is

4359
02:53:03,670 --> 02:53:00,319
your art form

4360
02:53:05,269 --> 02:53:03,680
you are in your creative flow but that's

4361
02:53:08,150 --> 02:53:05,279
other people it might be singing or

4362
02:53:08,710 --> 02:53:08,160
dancing but this is why we came to the

4363
02:53:12,070 --> 02:53:08,720
planet

4364
02:53:15,590 --> 02:53:12,080
to express some deeper

4365
02:53:18,950 --> 02:53:15,600
aspect of the soul man that's heavy

4366
02:53:20,790 --> 02:53:18,960
well said well said alan alan

4367
02:53:23,110 --> 02:53:20,800
enjoy the rest of your night what a

4368
02:53:24,630 --> 02:53:23,120
great conversation thank you so much

4369
02:53:26,790 --> 02:53:24,640
and thank you for all of your

4370
02:53:29,110 --> 02:53:26,800
contributions over the years

4371
02:53:29,910 --> 02:53:29,120
to this community we thank you thank you

4372
02:53:31,750 --> 02:53:29,920
so much

4373
02:53:33,349 --> 02:53:31,760
well i'm glad the book is finally

4374
02:53:34,710 --> 02:53:33,359
something that people can say i wonder

4375
02:53:35,910 --> 02:53:34,720
what that guy was doing at all those

4376
02:53:38,710 --> 02:53:35,920
conferences you know

4377
02:53:40,469 --> 02:53:38,720
it's like here it is you've got proof

4378
02:53:42,630 --> 02:53:40,479
you've got proof

4379
02:53:43,670 --> 02:53:42,640
right thanks jimmy for the interview

4380
02:53:46,630 --> 02:53:43,680
good question

4381
02:53:48,630 --> 02:53:46,640
you're the best alan alan steinfeld and

4382
02:53:49,510 --> 02:53:48,640
the book of course is making contact

4383
02:53:51,830 --> 02:53:49,520
preparing for

4384
02:53:52,790 --> 02:53:51,840
new realities of extraterrestrial

4385
02:53:55,309 --> 02:53:52,800
existence

4386
02:53:56,790 --> 02:53:55,319
the links are right there at

4387
02:53:58,790 --> 02:53:56,800
jimmychurchradio.com

4388
02:54:00,150 --> 02:53:58,800
i've gone to the end of the show i'm

4389
02:54:01,510 --> 02:54:00,160
going to do one commercial break come

4390
02:54:03,110 --> 02:54:01,520
back and say goodnight

4391
02:54:06,309 --> 02:54:03,120
and wrap things up thank you so much

4392
02:54:07,990 --> 02:54:06,319
alan hey that was great

4393
02:54:09,429 --> 02:54:08,000
alan steinfeld i'm your host jimmy

4394
02:54:13,030 --> 02:54:09,439
church i'm going to take a quick break

4395
02:54:18,830 --> 02:54:13,040
i'll be back to say good night stay with

4396
02:54:29,830 --> 02:54:18,840
[Music]

4397
02:54:31,830 --> 02:54:29,840
hey what up y'all biblical fox here and

4398
02:54:37,030 --> 02:54:31,840
you are listening to my boy

4399
02:54:48,070 --> 02:54:40,309
despite popular opinion reading a book

4400
02:54:50,309 --> 02:54:48,080
will not make you smarter

4401
02:54:51,510 --> 02:54:50,319
this is jimmy church and i'll be at the

4402
02:54:54,630 --> 02:54:51,520
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4403
02:54:57,269 --> 02:54:54,640
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4404
02:54:58,070 --> 02:54:57,279
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4405
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4406
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4407
02:55:05,030 --> 02:55:01,760
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4408
02:55:07,110 --> 02:55:05,040
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4409
02:55:09,750 --> 02:55:07,120
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4410
02:55:12,230 --> 02:55:09,760
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4411
02:55:12,870 --> 02:55:12,240
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4412
02:55:14,950 --> 02:55:12,880
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4413
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4414
02:55:20,070 --> 02:55:16,960
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4415
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4416
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4418
02:55:28,950 --> 02:55:28,319
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4419
02:55:31,030 --> 02:55:28,960
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4420
02:55:32,790 --> 02:55:31,040
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4421
02:55:36,030 --> 02:55:32,800
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4422
02:55:37,349 --> 02:55:36,040
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4423
02:55:40,150 --> 02:55:37,359
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4424
02:55:41,429 --> 02:55:40,160
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4425
02:55:45,230 --> 02:55:41,439
from being with all of us

4426
02:55:51,910 --> 02:55:45,240
is you just go to

4427
02:55:55,750 --> 02:55:53,670
this is jimmy church of fade to black

4428
02:55:58,950 --> 02:55:55,760
and i take life change t

4429
02:55:59,590 --> 02:55:58,960
supplements every single day it's what i

4430
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tomorrow night right here nancy tremaine

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